your "fantasy" political party

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  1. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    okay since I have to stay home for at least a few hours, I'll submit this exercise:
    no political party is everything we want it to be. But we weigh the pros and cons and vote accordingly (to include voting for none of the above) or sit it out because neither party even comes close to what you stand for , or even fits the "lesser of two evils" scenario. So if you could wave a magic wand and form your own party, what are some of the goals, ideals, mindset, etc. that matter to you and/or would affect the betterment of our nation?

    These are in no particular order of importance. My points are not all-inclusive. If I don't list something that is important to you, or if I list something you are not concerned with, keep this in mind. This is a magic wand fantasy tailored to everyone who votes (or doesn't vote for whatever reason).

    1. LEGAL IMMIGRATION
    Streamline the process! :shakefist:Use the money and resources saved by simplifying the process on VETTING the immigrants. Vet the living dog-shit out of them whether they are from Turkmenistan or Canada or wherever. No blanket bans on Muslim countries or any category of country. If "bad guys" want to get into America they will just sneak in. HOWEVER if they cannot provide enough information for us to vet them, sorry about that. Try another country - the world is (thankfully) full of safe, stable nations that may have
    different immigration policies, so adjust your plans accordingly.

    2. RECREATIONAL DRUGS
    Legalize them or ban alcohol! Shit or get off the pot (no pun intended) with drugs. Admit booze is a drug
    (some people can't get past that) just like any other drug. What you want to put into your body is your
    business. HOWEVER if making or transporting that drug endangers the general population (like meth labs catching on fire or contaminating buildings for example) charge the offenders - users and sellers - to the maximum penalty allowed by law.

    DUI and/or drug impaired driving? HAMMER TIME for "hammered" time drivers! :shakefist: Make it hurt too.
    And multiple DUI's? Are you fucking kidding me? Those drivers are as bad as somebody firing a loaded weapon at people but barely missing them. How many times should somebody be allowed to do that before they are locked up for a long, long, long time? Once, twice, six times? Fuck impaired drivers. They kill THOUSANDS every year and we should treat them as the serious threat that they are.

    Stop the madness of arresting drug "dealers" but not the users, assuming legalization falls through.
    Yes, it's madness! If you say it's okay for Tommy to possess up to an ounce of weed, how can you arrest Jimmy the weed dealer? :unsure: Either a substance is legal or it is not. Unless Tommy grows his own, where is he supposed to obtain the weed? It's either legal for everyone along that chain or it is not, full stop. Users should be penalized as harshly as the suppliers. This nonsense of allowing somebody up to a certain amount of any drug is just that, nonsense of the highest (no pun intended) degree.

    3. EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, NOT EQUAL OUTCOME
    Stop quota hiring. Hire the most qualified, full stop. HOWEVER does this infringe upon the Constitutional rights of a private employer? :unsure: I'm not a Constitutional law expert. That said if a private employer practices discrimination based on race, sexual preference, etc. they should be charged, but there is already a legal process to address this in place.

    4. GUN CONTROL
    Vet the person, not the gun. In other words if you are vetted (yes I support background checks!) then you should be allowed to possess any quantity of semi-automatic non-crew weapon made with no magazine limits. The vast majority of gun homicides are committed with the guns many "gun control" advocates would accept as non-"assault/weapons of war" type weapons. In other words, the handguns and shotguns and rifles with standard ammo capacity available pretty much everywhere. Putting a special "tax" on certain weapons/magazines is ridiculous. All it does is allow the rich guys to have the so-called "weapons of war" :shep:while the criminals and crazy will continue to commit their gun homicides not giving a shit about the tax. The average law-abiding (already vetted) gun owner will be penalized financially.

    In fairness will it limit the carnage of a crazy mowing down innocent people in a high-profile Vegas style massacre? Possibly, unless the killer paid the taxes for the right to use high-capacity weaponry. But full-on massacres make up a small percentage of annual gun homicides. Chicago (one city) has more gun homicides than the US total for news-worthy "mass killings". That is a fact folks, not an opinion.

    5. CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM
    Where to start? It's a justice CIRCUS not a justice system IMHO. :brood: It's pure madness! On Monday a shoplifter gets two years. On Tuesday a rapist gets six months behind bars and three years probation.
    It's all over the map! But I'll focus on one thing that grinds my gears:
    justice should not be for sale. :brood: The rich person (of any race, religion or sexual preference) should never have an advantage because he can afford the better lawyer. Yes it's been that way forever, but that's not an excuse.
    On a related note if it's "the State Of Georgia versus oldfella" and the prosecution does not prove me guilty, then Georgia should reimburse me for all my legal fees, lost wages from work, and any other tangible negative effects from my arrest & temporary incarceration. Georgia lost a fight they started - now pay me back, because your pockets are deeper than mine and you started the fight in the first place.

    6. MILITARIZATION OF THE POLICE
    I'm against it not because of people's feelings about it, or the optics of militarized cops, but because it's wasteful and redundant. America already has trained & equipped military forces in the form of the National Guard (or even active duty should the shit totally hit the fan) that are fully capable of handling any contingency. Those resources ARE ALREADY PAID FOR so why waste tax money on having these capabilities at the local level? :shrug: When armed robbers and crazy people start using military grade weaponry on a regular basis that could be a game/policy changer, but there's no indication that this is happening that I am aware of.

    And bottom-line what good does it do to have the best high octane equipment to "fight crime" when the courts won't enforce the laws already on the books? How about focusing on keeping violent criminals locked up before we shell out money for unneeded equipment?

    Okay these are some things I would like to see addressed and resolved from my fantasy political party.
    Let the poo-flinging begin! Of course I'd rather keep it civil, but this is the red room so use your own discretion.
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  2. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Let me repost something from way back in the beginning of my Blue Room thread.

    Abortion. Not having a uterus myself, I don't think my opinion means a whole lot. But . . .
    The "debate" is frequently, and incorrectly, framed in terms of "when does life begin." Obviously, life begins when the fertilized egg begins to divide itself, thereby satisfying all the basic requirements of life. The real question is "when does that life become a person?" To my mind this occurs when the brain begins organized neurological activity . . . recognizable brainwave patterns. After that, abortion should be disallowed unless the life of the mother is in jeopardy.

    Prostitution. Legalize it. Regulate it. Clean it up, make it safe. There's no crime being committed, provided all parties are of legal age.

    Alcohol. Responsible use is harmless.

    Marijuana. In principle I'd like to see it legalized, as that would chop the legs out from under a lot of street crime. However, pot is a dangerous substance. It has long-term effects on brain chemistry, kidney function, reproductive organs, and liver function. The smoke is from three to ten times as toxic as tobacco smoke, depending on whose stats you believe. Probably it should be legal but regulated even more tightly than tobacco or alcohol.

    Other (currently illicit) drugs. There are a few that could be legalized, but many of them are illegal for a good reason: they're really bad for you. Personally, I'd legalize almost all of them, but users would forfeit any claim on publically funded health care.

    Gay marriage. "Marriage" is a religious institution. It is subject to religious guidelines. That said, if gay people want the same sort of benefits that accrue to married heteros, I don't see any reason to deny them. Call it a civil union to make the fundies happy, but leave the poor bastards alone if they really want to saddle themselves with divorce lawyers and in-laws.

    Illegal immigrants. There's a well-established mechanism by which foreigners can become US citizens. Use it. If not, the hell with you. You're a criminal and your ass should be shipped back where you came from.

    Smoking. It's currently legal, and making it illegal would work about as well as prohibition did back in the twenties. That said, people who think lighting dried leaves on fire and breathing in the smoke is a good idea are obviously brain damaged.

    Drunk driving. A DUI/DWI should be an automatic loss of driver's license. No ifs, ands, or buts. For one year. Do it again and that year will be spent in public service under supervision, picking up trash along the highway. Third time, a year in prison. If you killed anyone while driving drunk, you should get twenty years in prison at minimum.

    Racism. I have no tolerance for it.

    Premarital sex. It has always happened, it always will happen. Deal with it. There's nothing wrong with it so long as everyone involved is of legal age.

    Religion. A source of great strength and comfort for many people. BUT - religion seems to be the point where ritual becomes more important than faith. I think faith is the real core of the religious experience.

    The legal drinking age. I favor an "age of majority" wherein all adult rights and responsibilities begin. Call it 18 just because. Voting, drinking, military service, all that good stuff.

    Porn. Generally harmless. Covered by the First Amendment. Leave it be, as long as those participating are of legal age and uncoerced.

    Suicide. While I can envision some circumstances where it might be justifiable, for the most part suicide is the coward's way out. Stand up, stick out your chin, and yell "Come get some!!"
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  3. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    Smoking. It's currently legal, and making it illegal would work about as well as prohibition did back in the twenties. That said, people who think lighting dried leaves on fire and breathing in the smoke is a good idea are obviously brain damaged. - Lanz

    :lol: Seriously.....WTF is wrong with people? That said I tried it when I was a kid. It made my lungs burn - this is stupid. I tried it again a few years later (maybe I wasn't doing it right) and it still burned my lungs. That was enough for me!
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  4. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    I’ve never understood smoking. It smells like shit, it tastes like shit, it’s grotesquely bad for you . . .
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  6. Jenee

    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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  7. Tererun

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    1. LEGAL IMMIGRATION
    Willing to accept immigrants and refugees willing to become american. I assume an immigrant is a person who wants to be american and is not running away from wars in their homeland. If you want to live in some religious fascist country, stand and fight for your god against the warlords in your land. I am sure god will help. If you want to practice your religion while not forcing it on others, including family, and of your own free will then I am cool with what you do as long as you are not unreasonably harming anyone. Culture, religion, art and whatever are the spice of life and you be as spicy as you want to be.

    2. RECREATIONAL DRUGS
    Legalize and license the use of them. Use licensing fees and taxes on products to cover the costs of the administration and rehab of people who get addicted. Have age limits and available adult placers to get high. These places would have food, shelter, and basic nurses available to start medical intervention if needed. You can use at home on your own risk. Harshly criminalize the non-legal paths of drug distribution and administration. Harsh penalties for selling to under age, unlicensed, or non taxed people.



    3. racism

    I think this will be covered in my employment section.


    4. GUN CONTROL

    Personal gun ownership has to be licensed, registered and renewed yearly. To have a gun in your home readily available you need to have a purpose for it beyond your dick being too small and you are scared to sleep at night without it.. In order to own one you will have to go through a 6 month boot camp and train with it. You will have to recertify yearly which includes re-examining your purpose for having one in your home.

    For the recreational shooter you can have your gun stored at a secure government licensed range/compound where you can use it and hug it and clean it and whisper sweet nothings in it's barrel as long as you are on the secure compound. There would also be ways to allow for hunting rifles to be taken out for hunting purposes.

    5. CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM
    New and better hiring and training practices for all levels that involve non lethal and de-escalation techniques. Public safety would count under civil service and provide high levels of income.



    6. Paid civic corps to replace what military is used for. These will be organized like military service is now, and the benefits of education, income, and luxury would be provided for the people who enlist. We house you while you serve unless you decide to purchase a place yourself. While you serve you are a part of infrastructure projects and can be used for disaster relief also. Extra public safety for large events, and organizational assistance would also be coordinated through state and federal management. This area should make jobs for people who want to work and earn more than basic standard survival level existence. The government will employ people to do projects that are not covered by commercial contractors.

    Given that everyone would have a job available to them for showing up we could provide a new standard of minimal (aka being a worthless bum) living and clean things up.[/quote]
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  8. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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  9. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    So says you.

    I enjoy my smoking, and it also seems to work as dipshit repellant. That is until one of the dipshits braves the great outdoors to come over to you and make coughing noises, and then it is fun to blow clouds of smoke at them.
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  11. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    "In order to own one you will have to go through a 6 month boot camp and train with it." - Tererun

    Six months of training? Granted the "blink and you'll miss it" easy-peasy Hunter's Safety course is a little anemic, but six months? Army basic training is only about ten weeks or so!
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    Fisherman's Worf Sir, I must protest! I am NOT a dairy man!

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    My fantasy political party would pick me up at my house with some nice flowers, driving a modest but sleek sports car. Then we'd go to dinner somewhere nice, maybe along the water. My fantasy political party would order my food for me and leave a 5% tip. After that, we'd take a moonlit stroll along the water while the car is double parked in front of a hospital. Then my fantasy political party would pick my pockets, kick me into the water, and never see me again.
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  14. Tererun

    Tererun Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I thought your fantasy political party was the republicans sucking on your balls?
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    wouldn't it be more effective to have all defense lawyers paid directly by the state whether you're guilty or innocent then? Either way, the state is already paying for the case to be made against you, only seems right that you have the same resources to defend yourself. also it'd negate the highest bidder aspect of the present culture if we got rid of superstar lawyers...

    Besides, if you do go to jail, how would you pay for the legal reps yourself with your income interrupted?
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  16. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Ok, I'll bite;

    Immigration:

    US: I'm in favour of the use of immigration for humanitarian reasons, there's little to no evidence of the supposed economic drawbacks to bringing additional workforce into a nation. On the contrary the big picture strongly suggests times of high immigration are linked to economic prosperity, not to forget social, cultural and scientific advancement.

    Frankly I'd look for a multilateral approach to loosening borders and restrictions upon travel. The US could and should lead the way on this.

    UK: Specific concerns about the Irish border, undermining the GFA could easily destabilise the peace. I'd look for ways to limit the impact of Brexit whilst being very transparent about it's consequences. Not going to lie, I'd like a 2R.

    Recreational drugs:

    US: The war on drugs has been a monumental failure and has simply fuelled a black market and the underground development of synthetics. Cut off the revenue stream for dealers and importers, impose sizeable taxes on a product which will anyway be cheaper than it currently is.

    UK: Focus more on the labs developing those synthetics and be willing to provide licenses where appropriate. The law currently attempts to cut down on supply but not demand, so there's an obviously profitable niche for legal highs which mimic natural substances. Let the more professional labs continue to function but soften the stance on the "real thing", incentivising well regulated research in other areas.

    Smoking:

    Illegal in the workplace and public spaces and that includes having a joint (see above). There's no ethical case for the consequences of passive smoking but feel free to enjoy in your own home and/or designated spaces.

    Guns:

    US : No amount of checks would satisfy me. Unless you can provide a very good case for a specific case by case need I'd simply ban the sale of guns and ammo.

    Period.

    No gun grab, no blanket revoking of existing licenses, possibly buybacks if the financial case could be made. Let natural wastage happen and police the ever loving fuck out of armed criminals who are already being squeezed out by the decriminalisation of drugs. Two prong attack.

    UK: Carry on as is.

    Criminal justice:

    US: Obviously de militarise the police and provide training in dealing with related disciplines such as social work. Empower the police to biild more positive relations with their communities via more robust recruitment and better training. Use the budgets currently allocated to military gear to fund outreach and community work. Cut back on privatisation in all areas of the judicial system.

    UK:

    Dear God where to start? Increase police budgets and manpower by a significant measure. At the moment all public sector bodies are strained.

    Continue development of early intervention models in schools and the use of restorative justice and pri active probation work including education and employment initiatives.

    Improve mental health facilities in jails and develop the use of assessment tools and rehabilitation work. We still have far too many learning disabled and mentally ill prisoners who would be better served elsewhere.

    Conversely remove the presumption of concurrent sentencing under the Mental Health Act, give services more leeway to show discretion here to discourage abuse of the system.

    Healthcare:

    US: Sorry, you're fucked.

    UK: More funding for professional development with a wider remit. Review (yet again) nursing pay scales with a view to bringing them in line with the ever increasing responsibility and focus on post grad nursing. Research opportunities should be made more accessible for clinical practitioners within the public domain in collaboration with universities.

    Education:

    US: Drop the athletic scholarships. Seriously.

    UK: I know the old grant system is never coming back but atm higher education is becoming ever less affordable and that inevitably lends itself to social stratification. Find ways to encourage the development of more part time and distance learning degree courses for working people and parents.
  17. The Ghost of Crazy Horse

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    I don't know about my "fantasy political party", I don't need a party to get things done, I need Congress to get them done and I don't care which "side" does it.

    Some fantasy things I'd like to see done, but won't happen in my lifetime:
    The Military Industrial Complex:
    A militia type system as described by Madison in Federalist #46. This would lead to my next thing; dissolving the standing army. I then would also like to see a reduction in military personnel and military bases domestic and abroad. Which would then lead to a dramatic reduction in the military budget. I would still retain a huge naval presence though. Then I would like to see a further reduction of nuclear proliferation across the world. This would then lead to robust free/fair trade deal* with every friendly country and with the non-friendly countries; an offer would be on the table with conditions attached. Those conditions would depend on what makes them non-friendly. Taking all of the money we're not spending on the military and our adventuring and divert it to a newly created public option fund that people can opt in and out of each year. That leads me to healthcare, immigration and education.

    * Free/fair trade meaning no lopsided deals like NAFTA or something like that.

    Immigration, Healthcare, and Education:
    This is something I've been thinking about for a while and here's what I'd like to see. You want free healthcare and education, sorry, there's no such thing as a free lunch. How about I make you a deal? In exchange for a small stipend and your tuition paid, you have to work a minimum of 25 hours a week either in the military or civil service.* For every year you're in undergrad, you have to do this. As for healthcare, you can either use the aforementioned public option that I believe you should probably have to pay some sort of premium or buy in (which would not be huge) or if you can't afford that, that then you work the military or civil service and your stipend goes towards funding the public option. If you want citizenship, you must come through legal channels, if you serve in my program for four years, you will be granted citizenship. I'm not one for open borders, but I am for expanding our legal immigration and making it easier and quicker for people to get in as long as they are properly vetted.

    *civil service can be anything like working at your local library or museum or hospital, whatever, but it must serve the public. If you're going to school to be a Doctor, for example, we'll try to place you somewhere like a hospital so you can at least get some experience, so it's kind of like internship, but we won't guarantee anything, but if you're willing to move, we will prioritize you.

    Drugs:
    legalize mushrooms and marijuana, decriminalize everything else.

    UBI:
    Replaces Social Security, income tax and various other welfare programs.

    About that income tax:
    Gone and replaced with a 20% flat tax. Obviously people that make under a certain amount would be exempt.

    I like gold:
    Return to the gold standard, sound money, eliminate the Federal Reserve and fractional banking. Everything must be paid by incoming revenue, no more running a debt or a deficit. That also comes with a balanced budget amendment. The budget must be balanced every fiscal year. On top of that a line item veto and the return of sunset clauses.

    Alphabet Departments:
    Gone, if you're not specifically mentioned or enumerated in the constitution, you don't get to exist.

    The New World Order:
    We'll still support NATO, but Europe, you guys need to start stepping up because we're leaving for the most part.

    China:
    You don't want to play ball, time to cut you off.

    Saudi Arabia and other Middle-East countries:
    You guys also don't wanna play ball, you're also cut off, bitches. We've got our own oil and we'll be just fucking fine without you. We'll listen to "I Will Survive" on the way out.

    Middle-East Countries that do want to play ball:
    There's an offer on the table with our conditions, take it or leave it.

    I've got a few more things, but I think that's a good start.
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  18. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    so are you saying all defense lawyers should "public defenders?" I don't know what Canada calls them, but that's the lawyer you get appointed to you if you cannot afford a lawyer.
    As it is now a public defender will fast-track you from a suspect to a convict. As for paying for your lawyer while you are in jail with your income interrupted, if you can bond out you might be able to keep working until your trial, it depends on your job position. If you don't have the money to bond out in the first place, you may be SOL.

    So it's a catch-22. You have to bond out to make arrangements (borrow money for example or sell things) to hire an actual experienced lawyer just to have a better chance of not being found guilty or at least getting the best deal/reduced sentence. If you are found innocent your money was well spent. You can keep on working (hopefully) and eventually recover from the financial hit.
    If you are found guilty those are the breaks! Either way your lawyer gets paid better money than a public defender gets.

    Hopefully some day money will be taken out of the equation in criminal trials. Not saying lawyers in general shouldn't get paid well, because there are many types of lawyers, not just trial lawyers.
    But when it comes to what can be literally "life-or-death" every suspect should be on a level playing field.
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    yup
    their fees and rates should be set by the state/province of which they are an officer of that court precisely to maintain a levelled playing field.

    why is it only a defendant who is at the mercy of a "free market"?
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  20. Ancalagon

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    You left out the ‘For a POG...’ part.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I'll give you my thoughts on this thread eventually, @oldfella1962 but for now I'll say two things: Damn, this is a thoughtful thread! and Welcome back, you sumbitch. You've got a lot more cojones than Tuttle and Marso and those other poseurs. :techman:
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  22. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    true, grunt basic is rolled right into grunt AIT. Still well short of Tererun's suggested six month gun training program! :shep:
  23. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 high speed, low drag

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    oh I'm back but I'm not engaging in personal attacks or trying to change anybody's minds - it's pretty silly and counter-productive. Too much to be positive about - I survived 2020! Okay, so far anyway.
    Side note - is a fever of 128.5 something to be concerned about? I don't get sick often, so I might be out of the loop here!
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  24. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Listen here, Jack

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    So if you need to build a new aircraft carrier or fight a war or something pricey you'll just wait until you've saved up for it?

    Not all of us have parents that can afford to buy us new cars and houses in cash. :shrug:
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    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    "Marriage" is a religious institution."

    Not under law it's not. We've had civil marriage laws which were inconsistent with the prevailing religious doctrine of marriage ever since we've had legal marriages at all. it's never been bound to be a carbon copy of any religious doctrine nor could it be in a pluralistic society. Civil marriage is a wholly separate parallel institution to what's going on in any house of worship.
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  26. The Ghost of Crazy Horse

    The Ghost of Crazy Horse Soul Rebel

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    Pretty much.
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    Jenee Ind. Jenee of Winterfell

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    So many things wrong, but ... I’m just going to address this one right now. Maybe the teenager will let me on the desktop for a little while tomorrow.

    I have a friend from elementary school who is also a big proponent of UBI. I’ve asked multiple times how he thinks it would be paid for. Where would those funds come from?

    The US does not own any business. Their funds come through taxes. So, a UBI would be collecting money through taxes to pay it out through a UBI.

    First, that’s a totally moronic idea.

    Second, you also said you would eliminate taxes.

    So, tell me, how do you plan to pay for a UBI in the United States?
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  28. Faceman

    Faceman Negative Creep

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    My fantasy political party would always be down for some fingering.
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  29. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Immigration: As large as can be properly integrated year on year. Points based system with points based on aspects like job skills, education, family connection, commitment to move to a growing regional area. Large refugee intake as part of this.

    Drugs legalization of marijuana, on a similar framework to that which exists for tobacco and alcohol. Decriminalization of most other drugs, however misuse in a public place, driving a car under the influence, when responsible for a minor etc will result in mandatory rehab. Dealing in commercial quantities kept as a criminal offence.

    Health Care Universal Health Care, including dental. People can choose to have private cover if desired but the public system should be good enough that it is a luxury, not a necessity.

    Education Public funding for free k-12 education. Free or cheap tertiary education. Where it is paid it will be via government loans that only earn interest based on inflation so they stay stable in real world terms, and are paid back through increased tax rates after earning beyond a threshold amount.

    Energy Support for grid scale wind and solar, along with storage/stability systems such as pumped hydro. Promotion of infrastructure for electric vehicles. Price on carbon emissions reinstated to promote private sector moves towards low emissions technology.

    Indigenous Australians Policy based on discussion and consultation with representatives, something along the lines of guaranteed parliamentary representation along with a treaty that formally recognises and strengthens groups claims to their land while also recognizing that the colonization of the past two centuries cannot be undone.

    Employment Conditions Minimum wages continue to be set annually as they are now, through consultation with and submission by unions, social support organisations, business representatives and other members of the public. Policies that have led to increased casualization of the workforce to be reversed.

    Guaranteed Employment Ideally this would be a UBI, but I don't think we are at the stage for that to be viable yet. Guaranteed public works jobs for all who need them. Similar to the minimum wage calculations, the amount of hours available in these jobs will be designed to adequately support someone without causing unnecessary inflation. Probably aimed to be a level 30-40% above current unemployment payments.

    Resource Royalties Companies whose business involves the extraction of non-renewable resources in Australia to pay royalties on profits from extraction of them.
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  30. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Exactly.

    Funerals tend to be religious ceremonies as much as if not more than weddings, yet you don't hear anyone arguing that atheists can't die.
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