I'm Going to a Critic Screening of Star Trek Monday Night

Really? I don't know, I kind of like to, you know, see a movie before I go ripping it to pieces.

Crazy, right?

A good storyteller can do anything they want and make it work.

But I'm sure you've got some fanfic that rivals anything JJ Abrams has done.

That's what I thought.

Editted for accuracy.

I don't have to be anally raped by a rabid monkey to be able to criticize the idea.

Can anyone really tell the difference between an actual Felicity script and Felicity fan fic ?

Well in the fan fic her hair is longer and...

Suck it.

This does nothing for me.

Then don't watch it.

Unfortunately for you, this movie is now a fact.

In fact, it is now canon.

Obliterating all the old canon.

All your fanfic are for naught.

Muhahaha.

I can hardly wait to see this tomorrow night! I've come to terms with the reboot concept and realize that it was necessary for the revitalization of the franchise.

Hmm.... looks like you can't put an attachment in quotes. oh well.

Anyway..... I wonder if Storm really liked this movie or is just getting caught up in the merchandising hype and jizzing himself cause he got to see a Trek movie early and write a review on it.

So just for the record...

Storm says we are all fools who can't appreciate a good story.
We point out 'Cadet to Captain' isn't good story telling.
Storm posts a picture of a box of corn flakes.

Well.... Storm I agree that plotline was "corny" too but just what are you trying to say ? Have you now changed your view to "the whole movie is corny as a box of corn flakes" ?

Only until yet another timeline change erases JJ's "vision". I can wait.

BTW, Its not just Star Trek, I also believe most of Abrams work is sub-par. Alias ended up a mess, Cloverfield was awful and in many cases LITERALLY vomit inducing. The only thing that saved Lost was his good sense to stay away from it.

I'm not planning on it, especially if I have to pay money for it. Of course some people think you need to watch a movie to form an opinion on it even though information about it is readily available that opinions can be based on.

So?

I think he and most people who bother to post about it online have pretty much already decided whether they think the movie is good or not. The people gushing for this movie have been circle-jerking to it since the first information and images came out about it. Now they think anyone with a negative opinion about the movie is trying to give them blue balls or something.

That, and ironically in trying to placate people like myself, JJ & co. have said the original universe is still valid through their convoluted alternate universe plot device.

Personally I only ever watched Alias because of Jennifer Garner, and as for Lost, well, I lost interest after that show failed to really go anywhere or answer anything. Building mystery is good and generates interest, but after it goes on for a while, it ceases to be interesting and can even become frustrating to watch.

Do we have a "loser" smiley?

Ya think?

Fuck it. I've decided to go tomorrow night to the opening showing.

Damn me and my different opinion.

According to that logic no one can have any opinion about anything unless they experienced it for themselves, including history. After all, how do historians find a lot of their information? They read about it from original sources.

Good god.

Now I know who this is.

This is the old smelly chick from "Trekkies" with all the pictures of Data and the 30 cats.



I'd just love to hear her ideas for a great Trek film.

Really? Seriously? You're not seeing the disconnect, are you?

Fucking booger farmer.

That's really the only problem I'm having with it so far. Though it's a minor quibble, I just don't like the look of the E from what I've seen so far.

Hopefully seeing more of it in the film will change my mind a bit.

Ah, but you can.

Media Central. Let's lower the angst some, shall we?

Well, no, but the primary flaw was that ENT did have Berman and Braga. Lacking their influence, this movie has a fighting chance. Post Bermaga's near destruction of the franchise, this reboot may just infuse the fresh blood Trek needs. Those 2 are like fucking vampires.

Anybody buying that is a fag.

First, it doesn't HAVE to be important to either to be okay. An homage is almost never about story or character building - BY DEFINITION it's an aside.

No, not in any sense.

Bullshit.

There is a distinct and obvious difference between )making this up since I haven't seen the film) NuKirk doing a flying leg kick as an homage to Shat and - on the other hand - obsessing over minutia like when the Feds first encountered a Feringi.

Link? I've not seen ANY direct bashing of TOS and I find it pretty damned unbelievable that the claim could be made in light of having hired a screenwriter who's an avowed fanboy of TOS.

It's not "continuity as a concept" that is at issue, it's continuity as a straightjacket - especially in light of the fact that pretty much all previous trek failed to maintain continuity!

Even WITHIN TOS there are continuity violations.

Which is to say - if you don't get them then they are an irrelevancy. Why bitch about irrelevancy?

From what you hear?

Rather, we have you framing the issue (mis-framing) in terms which make it more easy for you to bash a movie you have not seen yet.

Hardly....logical.

Ah, but that is more than Canon, that's the story itself.

Or else, you need a different word.

Spock being a Vulcan? Earth being in the Federation? The design of the ship...there are basic things which make up the story itself.

When a particular race was encountered, how long it takes to get to point X, how fast a ship can go...minutia.

It's intellectually dishonest to put these things all in the same category as "canon"

Hey, I'm as much of a Canon Fundamentalist as the next guy, but our Star Trek is finished. Bring on the new and stop yer bitchin'.

Might have had something to do with telling mostly suck-ass stories too donchathink?

Look, if you want to say they didn't tell a good story (albeit based on subjective judgments gleaned from internet spoilers but whatever) then by all means go for it - everyone is entitled to like or dislike the story being told.

That's a legitimate point of debate.

But all the nitpicking about "canon" stuff is where I take issue. You can claim you are really unhappy with the story, but when you post, you keep going back to JJ&Co. repeatedly "mocking canon".

It seems to me if you are worried about the story, then their comments re canon are not germain to your complaints, and if they are, then you are not as focused on complaining about the story as this post would imply.

So STFU about canon and criticize it on THAT basis and you'll be on firmer ground.