On the one hand, they're going to be origin films, which I'm not terribly happy with, OTOH, they're not intended for kids, which means there's a chance they won't be really crappy.
Abramswars will no doubt generate the same diversity of opinions & thought in the SW community that Abramstrek has & does in the ST community. Abramswars will be like a "Second Coming" of Abramstrek!
I think you're misinterpreting something here. I get the sense that these films will very definitely be for kids. Here's what I think you misinterpreted: I think you're interpreting that to mean, "This is not a... franchise for kids." I'm getting the sense of, "This franchise being for kids is not new."
why the fuck is everyone so fascinated with Fett? if we're interested in the B list folks, Lando is the guy i want to know more about.
I'm not. The prequel films filled in his back story quite nicely. Clearly he followed in his father's foot steps. Next generation bounty hunter cruising in his father's ride, the Slave I. He was the previous owner of the Millennium Falcon, lost it to Han Solo in a card game, but was again at the helm by the end of The Empire Strikes Back (even wearing Han Solo's clothes and everything ) and in Return of the Jedi he (still piloting the Millennium Falcon) helped destroy the second Death Star. Maybe Death Stars can't be destroyed without the Millennium Falcon... Now that I think about it, maybe a Millennium Falcon origin story would be worthwhile.
young han solo wins the MF in a card game and they go on to set a record time for the kessel run? Disney has done this before
getting pulled over for DUI and flashing the TIE troopers while the Falcon's lights blink in sad resignation?
and dollars to donuts some teeny boppers will whine about how the spirit of 35 years ago has been lost while they have a true vision...
With Boba Fett IMO it's all about his cool uniform/outfett/costume, whatever you want to call it. If he had been just a costumeless Generic Alien instead, he wouldn't have the fandom he does. Plus, an interesting sidebar is Jason Wingreen spoke for Boba Fett in the original version of TESB. He's a veteran journeyman character actor best known for the Willoughby "Twilight Zone" episode & playing Archie's friend & business partner on "All In The Family".
Yeah, it's not like he just got done doing an origin story for another sci-fi franchise or anything...
that would depend altogether on who the actor is. And how well it's written. I LOVE Harrison Ford but that doesn't mean for a minute that no one else could play the role. Hell, 10 years ago Nathan Fillion would have done a fine job with it. (still would but he's too old for an "origin story" now of course. he's basically the same age Ford was in ROTJ right now)
That's what I'm saying, on the age thing. Ford was 35 in 1977, Fillion is 42 right now. At least 10 years to old to play Solo in any context before he met luke. the weight thing is irrelevant - tell the guy "Drop 30 pounds and you can play Han Solo and give him six weeks - DONE.
We've seen Han Solo's origin story: it's called Episode 4 A New Hope. Seriously. In the beginning of the film, Han Solo is a self-absorbed mercenary unwilling to "stick his neck out" for anybody, no matter what the cost, unless there was something in it for him. By the end, he has become a hero whose last-second intervention allows the rebels to destroy the Death Star. That story tells the tale of how he became the character we like. If you tell his story PRIOR to that, it's going to be a tale of the unreformed Han Solo, a character we probably won't like. And if they ret-conn him into something more like the Solo of the original trilogy in order to MAKE him likable, it undermines his conversion in Episode 4. So, bad idea to do a Han Solo "origin." The most you could do is a "younger" Han Solo. Of course, if they're going with that bad idea, they'll probably bring in EVERY OTHER friggin' character from the original trilogy just to keep the character rooted somehow. We'll see teenage Han Solo hanging out with Chewbacca and teenage Lando Calrissian. We'll find out that Han Solo was once Darth Vader's personal shuttle pilot and that his commanding officer was Tarkin. He'll probably even have a teenage Boba Fett adversary. Lame.
Although, I wouldn't mind the angle of having him sneaking around in scenes from the prequels, ala "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead", and un-suck-ifying them somehow. He was in his 30's in ANH, so he could be 10 in the AOTC/ROTS era. He could be the anti-Jake Lloyd!
Disagree. It would be cool to find out how he met Chewbacca, how he won the Falcon from Lando, earlier dealings with Jaba. We really know nothing about Solo before Ep IV except that he operated outside the law (who can blame him given the government), had done something to earn absolute loyalty from a Wookie, and was in a desperate situation. It could be quite interesting to see how he ended up at the Mos Eisley cantina on that particular day.
Doesn't mean he was always a self-absorbed merc. The character is beloved, and there's enough backstory there to make a credible film. False assumption. People continuously change over time. He might've been VERY likable until events conspired to screw him over royally. Well, I don't know about "hanging out", but I'd sure like to know how he met up with Chewie, how he and Lando crossed paths, how he became a smuggler, how he ended up on Jabba's shit-list, the Kessel Run story, etc... I can understand some pessimism--hell, Disney could cast Justin Bieber has Young Han, and crap all over the whole thing. But given the right storyline & casting, it could work quite well....
I don't know, an early Han joining the Imperial Troops to fight the good fight and being thrust into a situation where all his naivete is drained, betrayed on all sides... Walks out of it with a Wookie as his only real friend, a mistrust of ideology, no love for the Empire or the Rebels and a thirst to take the bitter taste out of his mouth. Finish it with him walking into a bar, having gone past some panels fans would recognize as being part of the Falcon on the way, opens the door and turns to Chewbacca - "Now what? I'll tell you now what - I'm going to have a drink, play some cards and see if things look better with a stinking hangover in the morning."
A Lando movie would be good too - could dovetail the end with the Han Solo movie. And we could see how he became the Only Black Guy in the Galaxy*! *Until the prequels. Which came later. But were earlier.
Problem is, it's Disney. A young or even recast Han Solo is going be either Shia Lebeouf or Zac Efron. I wish I could find it again, but there was a great story outline about how Chewie and R2D2 are the only ones who really know what's been going on since before GO66. The Mos Eisley meet up was probably set up at R2's signal to Chewie (who would've already been in the area shadowing the Tantive IV).
How about Taylor Kitsch? H e wasn't bad as John Carter, although between that and Battleship he needs to change his brand of aftershave to something other than Box Office Death...