Details About The New Star Wars "Spin Off" Films

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  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    A Boba Fett movie doesn't necessarily eliminate the mystery factor. The books have set a good example in that respect. I don't want to know significantly more about Fett, just want to see him in action.
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  2. Tuckerfan

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    Well, you don't have to worry about it being an origin story, since Lucas has already birthed that abortion.

    Its really a question of which way they're going to take the character. Are they going to make him some kind of bad ass bounty hunter version of Judge Dredd (comic book or 2013 reboot version, not the Stallone abortion)? That'd make for an awesome film (though I have a feeling that Abrams idea of "grittier" is more like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead with bad lighting and poor hygiene), but makes him dying like a bitch RotJ all that more painful to watch. Are they going to make him the tragically flawed anti-hero, which you grow to like, despite his bad boy nature? (Should sparkles have lens flare?) Is he going to be, as Dicky suggested, a modern Nameless Drifter, who's just passing through, and just does shit so he can move on to the next town? I don't know.

    What they could do, and this would give them a lot more room to play with, while fixing Lucas' fuck up in how he killed off Fett, is that there is more than one Fett. (Yeah, I know, the robots from AI only gave Jengo Fett one clone, but there's no reason why Boba couldn't have returned to that planet to have more copies of himself made.) So, you could have a bunch of bad ass clones of Fett, each of whom pick up various bits of gear and skills on their adventures, without necessarily sharing them with the other clones. That would allow them to have a Boba Fett who is less than capable (because he's recovering from serious injury) be the one who's at Jabba's compound and ends up dying like a bitch, while simultaneously having a Boba who can whip ass like only Batman can.
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  3. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I liked the way he was offed in ROTJ. No matter how much of a bad ass you are, there's always the chance you'll be accidentally bumped in to a sarlac pit.
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    I suppose you also like the way Mace Windu died like a bitch, too.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Yeah, actually. He proved he was badass enough to fight Sidious to a draw, or maybe even beat him, but his flaw was that he finally placed his trust in Anakin. Let that be a lesson -- never trust Anakin, not even for one second.
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    This.

    Like I said: make a movie about a guy running from Boba Fett, not a movie about Boba Fett. Do it like Terminator 2, with Boba Fett popping up like the T-1000 does.
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  8. Tuttle

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    I can't dislodge the view that Boba Fett is crap, a throwaway character whose most significant accomplishment in the first two movies he appeared in was not getting killed by Vader. I was astounded they somehow decided to create a backstory of him as super enough to merit being picked as donor to a clone army. Maybe he's like Clouseau, accidentally great?
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    Yeah, the origin bit was crap. Neither he, nor Jabba, nor R2 or C3PO needed to be in the prequels.
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    I agree, Jaba was completely gratuitous, but at least it was only a cameo. And not all cameos were gratuitous (Owen Lars, Tarkin).

    The droids were semi-gratuitous, but can you imagine the shit Lucas would have taken if they hadn't been there? One thing he has always said from the first mention of three trilogies, was that the droids would be in all 9 films.
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  12. Tuckerfan

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    We're talking about a guy who's claimed that Greedo always shot first, that Star Wars was always called "A New Hope," and that there never were any plans to make more than 6 movies. In short, we'd have all just chalked it up to George being George, and moved on with our lives.
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    Yeah, but with the droids, he has been consistent. Also, a lot of people like them, and to be honest, if you argue they had no place in the PT, it's hard to justify them in the OT beyond the Tatooine segment in ANH. They are just part of the ensemble, it isn't Star Wars without them.
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    Actually, its not hard to justify them in the OT beyond Tatooine, for two reasons: 1.) They were something from home, and other than his clothes they're the only thing from Tatooine that Luke has through all three films. 2.) The impression in the films is that Luke & Co. are always rushing from place to place, so dumping the droids and replacing them with ones that are more appropriate (say an upgraded R2 unit and a less prissy 3PO) would be an unnecessary waste of time (assuming they had the time).

    Even if you stick them in the PT, the way Lucas did it was about the most ham-fisted and stupid way one could do it. Far better to have them show up at different points in the story, as peripheral characters who gradually become more and more embedded in the story as the films progress, than to start out with them having been built by a central character from all 6 films.

    Lucas has called Star Wars a "modern fairy tale," which is apt, in many ways, I think. And what he's done with them over the years, is to take the original Grimms'-style fairy tale that SW was, and then add ever increasing levels of Disneyification to them (and unlike Disney, he's harmed the original tales, more than he's improved them). Walt & Co. may have sanitized the original Grimm's tales (and others), into something less horrible (and the Grimm brothers scrubbed a lot from the original tales that was brutal and violent), but unlike Lucas, they never went back and scrubbed the tales even more, as Lucas did. (Can you imagine what Snow White, for example, would be like if instead of a poisoned apple, it was a rotten apple? Ick!)
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    QFT. Especially with C3PO being there to help Anakin's mom with....what, exactly? His arms can't bend and he's slow and clumsy. And hey, let's just wipe their memories clean at the end to wrap all the shit up in a nice bow and pat ourselves on the back for lazy writing. :rolleyes:

    Personally, I could have lived without seeing either of them in the PT.
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  16. Diacanu

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    Nope, actually, R2 remembers.

    R2 and 3PO could plug into the same console, and the PT memories could be dragged-and-dropped right back into 3PO like *snap* that.

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