2016: Battle of the Dynasties?

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  2. RickDeckard

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    Surely the Bush brand is irreparably damaged at this point?
  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Couldn't you say the same for Clinton?
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  4. Chardman

    Chardman An image macro is worth 1000 words. Deceased Member

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    No. Not really.
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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Because getting a blowjob in the Oval Office is exactly the same as invading a sovereign nation for no damn reason and sanctioning torture. :rolleyes:
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  6. John Castle

    John Castle Banned Writer

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    No new Clinton, no new Bush, no more kissing gub'mint's tush.
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  7. John Castle

    John Castle Banned Writer

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    Lying to the American people is exactly the same as lying to the American people.
  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Okay, now you're on topic. Perhaps you can expand on what you mean by that last phrase.
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    It was a spontaneous demonstration because of an Internet video.

    At this point, what does it matter?

    Plus, at this point she's older than dirt.
  10. John Castle

    John Castle Banned Writer

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    I have already. Clinton/Bush, Republicrat/Dumonan, they're the same shit with different logos. They're all government, and all government is anti-freedom.
  11. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Ah, well. Thought you might make a case for a third party candidate rather than the usual fallback.
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    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    Said all of the people absolutely sure Bush would never win a second term.
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  13. gturner

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    I think running Hillary makes about as much sense as running Betty Ford.
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    Of course you do. 'Cause you're an idiot.
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  15. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    That a Bush brand exists is part of the problem. :brood:

    But Jeb is not Dubya and the liberals among us can find something to hate him for something other than being related to Dubya. :bergman:
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  16. gturner

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    Hollywood A-listers still flock to the Betty Ford Clinic. The Hillary Clinic? Not so much, except for the Harry Potter actors who wanted to learn how to ride a broom.
  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Brought to you by the party of There's No Such Thing as Misogyny; Some of Us Are Just Ascared of Women in Power.
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  18. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Jeb seems not to be tainted by his older brother's deceits. Like it or not, he will be viewed as holding all the promise of Shrub, circa 2000.
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  19. gturner

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    No, some of us are afraid of having shrill, incompetent she-devils in power, who are only even on the radar because of who they married and how they got cheated on. People still talk about Hillary as having potential. Generally potential turns into accomplishment by age 30 or 40. If your still waiting around near age 70 to see the potential's fulfillment, time to look elsewhere because it just didn't pan out.
  20. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    He'd be the same pot of fail. Sadly, I see the Daytons of the country peeing their pants with joy.
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  21. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Just because nothing's happened in your life since 1996, there's no need to project that onto everyone else.

    This is not an endorsement of Hillary, BTW, just an observation that - as with everything else - women in public office are held to a different standard than men. Your primary concern is always her fuckability. In this instance, you're telling yourself "Bubba wouldn't have stepped out on her if she was good in the sack," and that's your main criterion.
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  22. Dayton Kitchens

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    I wouldn't say I'm overjoyed but I've come to accept that people who collect millions of dollars to support a candidate find it immensely easier when the name brand is easy to recognized.

    I've also come to accept that JEB Bush is probably the LEAST likely to be effectively tarred as some kind of right wing zealot than other potential GOP candidates.

    Some points.

    1) FDR was the cousin of Teddy Roosevelt. Should FDR have been rejected on that basis?

    2) How many of you are willing to buy a new car from a car company you had never even heard of until last year?

    3) The semi dynastic nature of American politics didn't just appear with the Clinton's & Bush's

    John Adams/John Quincy Adams
    William Henry Harrison/Benjamin Harrison
    TR/FDR
    The Taft family
    The Kennedy family

    So then why the bitchin about Bush & Clinton.
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  23. Diacanu

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    If it's really "Clinton/Bush II: Electric Boogaloo", I'll vote Green to be able to sleep at night.
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    Archangel Primus Peritia

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    Considering you judge success and failure by the letter after their name on PMSNBC...
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  25. gturner

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    No, just that there are plenty of powerful female politicians out there that aren't primarily known because of who their husband is and how he treated them. There are also powerful women out there who aren't drawing Social Security. For example, Kelly Ayotte, AG of New Hampshire, Cathy Rodgers who holds a top position in the House leadership, Susana Martinez, governor of New Mexico, Nikki Haley, governor of South Carolina, Mary Fallin, governor of Oklahoma, Pam Bondi, AG of Florida, Mia Love, Representative from Utah, Condi Rice, and Carly Fiorina and Meg Whitman from the business world. What do they all have in common? That I neither know nor care if they're married, and if they are, I have no idea who their husband is or if he cheated on them.
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    Do you think if you just lie often enough it will magically become true?

    If you weren't a drooling idiot you'd know that I am not a fan of Hillary.
  27. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So it still comes down to what Bubba got up to, and the age thing. That's why you lot get stuck with the likes of Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. McCain might have had a real chance if, for example, he'd chosen someone like Ann Richards as a running mate.

    As for Meg Whitman, she lost - badly - because the "someone in business is better at running a government than a politician" thing flopped for her.

    As for Condi Rice, she's part of the Bush War Machine, so she was either in on it or more easily duped than Hillary...at a cost of tens of thousands of American lives.
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    Picking a running mate from the opposing party certainly would've been unusual.

    Especially a dead running mate. :zombie:






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    and I mentioned Hilary where?
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  30. gturner

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    Why would McCain choose a white-haired Democrat shrew who hadn't won an election in eighteen years?

    Californian's would vote Kim Jung Un before they'd vote for anyone connected with business, because business is evil - unless it's Apple.

    Little known fact: Of the tens of thousands of lives lost, 83 percent were liberals whose heads just spontaneously exploded as they watched cable news.