The inevitable questions that come from the Castle banning...

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  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    One more thing. There's never going to be a universal standard about bannings. Banning is not something we normally do, it defies codification. We've banned a net -3 people in 18 months. There is no need or possibility for setting up rules for something that statistically doesn't happen.
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  2. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    So if statistically a society doesn't deal with people who cannibalism people often, there should be no legislation against it?
  3. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    Oh come on @gul, you're resorting to the "disagrees" now? :jayzus: Why can't you just answer the comment? This is the place for community questions, no?
  4. 14thDoctor

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    I'm too lazy to track it down. What did Castle get banned for? Is there a link to it?
  5. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    For conducting a non-consensual social experiment in the board.
  6. RickDeckard

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    You are being argumentative and confrontational, Chup. You may not be aware, but you come across as such quite a bit.
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  7. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I'm on my phone, and I hit that by accident. But to be honest, it would have worked just fine. We aren't talking about cannibalism, and I've answered your questions, so I'm not inclined to weigh in further on the matter. We made a decision, your concerns are noted.
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  8. 14thDoctor

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    "Non-consensual" is a weird way to describe it. Unless Castle was a mod or admin and I just didn't notice, I'm pretty sure anyone could simply put him on ignore and be done with him.

    I'm not sure what to make of the "social experiment" part of it. :clyde:
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  9. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    He admitted to trolling in the red room, which is against the rules.
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  10. Tuckerfan

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    How is this "the first major banning in years" when it isn't even the first time Castle's been banned?
    From your OP:
    Is that or is that not a question about the fairness of banning Castle?
    Again, look at your OP:
    You specifically used the word "fair."

    Not as such, but you have said

    Which is near enough, don't you think?

    Calling you a "lawyer" is a personal insult? Seriously, you've been here long enough to know that it doesn't matter what happens, people will piss and moan about it, and object just because they can. If you expect people to consider your opinion, you'd better bring the evidence.

    But Dayon's the only one you said " should've been long gone by now." The others you mention in a manner to suggest that they should consider themselves to be on thin ice, but you don't suggest that they " should've been long gone by now."

    Then why bring the others into it?

    Why bring him into this discussion at all, then? Your contention seems to be that Castle's previous banning was unjustified because he was goaded into saying something bannable, yet others of us who do similar things aren't threatened with bannings, and Dayton is particularly heinous, so if you're going to ban Castle this time, for (barely) breaching the rules, you ought to ban Dayton as well.

    For the comparisons to be valid, they have to be at least roughly equal. They're not. Of all the posters you've mentioned, Castle is the only one who added nothing to the boards. Sure, Face and WAB often do post things merely to stir the shit, but not always, and even they have sense enough to back away from a subject without spewing post after post of incoherent word salads, when they recognize that the tide's against them. And everybody "pokes" other posters in order to rile someone up from time to time, so that's hardly justification for advocating that people be banned for it. Unless someone can demonstrate that a particular poster has a habit of doing that routinely and doesn't contribute anything meaningful to the boards, in which case, a banning is probably justified.
  11. Tuckerfan

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    Start here. Don't worry about it making sense, just follow it along.
  12. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    None of this makes any sense.
  13. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    Maybe so, but this is what makes me money and results is client loyalty, so if it it is ingrained in me to some degree well, frankly, I don't give a shit. I know that the questions imposed still have legitimacy, irrespective of the approach.
  14. El Chup

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    Summarise your overall point, as I asked you to, and then we can discuss the finer details you're still labouring at.
  15. El Chup

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    Why would anyone put him on ignore if they were unaware of the experiment? You might need to read the past threads to see what he's been (or claims to have been) up to.
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    Touche.

    Still, what I'm getting is that he was intentionally offending people/playing an offensive character to get a response?
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  17. garamet

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    Same as it ever was...
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    IOW, pay no attention to what you, Chup, have posted, but do this other thing over here. Nope. Sorry.
  19. The Original Faceman

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    Gosh, I hate people who do that. :busheep:
  20. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    *Catches up on the bullshit*
    Um...yeah, with the last ban, and this one...he was "harming the community",...how, exactly?
    I never figured that out.
    Was there a bullet somewhere he was going to wrap a printout of his posts around, and shoot someone with it?
    :chris:
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  21. Amaris

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    What a shame that Castle chose to go out this way. There were times when he was a lot of fun to talk to, and he could even put down some really good ideas when he wasn't trolling.
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  22. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    :huh:

    I repeat the questions in post 50.
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  23. Amaris

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    Not the banning, but the batshit crazy.
  24. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Batshit crazy and WF have been companions for a loooong tiiiime.
    :shrug:
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  25. Amaris

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    Eh, as odd as it sounds, WF has always done batshit crazy in moderation, and Castle kind of went over the edge. That said, I had nothing to do with any banning, and this thread was how I first learned of it, so the owners reasons are what matters when it comes to that.
  26. The Original Faceman

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    I mean you're talking to a brony after all.
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    Oh bullshit. Chup did something banworthy by playing creepy internet stalker with Castle earlier but you let it slide because it was Castle - plain and simple. So what excuse did you shitlords use to ban him now? Just admit that you were just waiting for an excuse and jumped at the first one. :bailey:
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    Wow, what a wuss.

    Since when? Isn't that at least partly the point of the Red Room? Is the Red Room turning into TBBS?
  29. tafkats

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    I believe that was Faceman's point, yes.
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  30. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I keep having flashbacks to my mod days, and having to help protect Baba from Borgs's hate-boner for tedious months on end.
    I had reason on my side, and the anti-Baba camp just had "but it's just Baba!! But it's just Baba! Why are you fighting so hard, it's just Baba!! :weep:".

    I'd always thought my modhood was mediocre, but nowadays, I'm looking like a solid gold star-baby.
    Let's bring back the Forgies, I want a retroactive lifetime achievement award.
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