2016 Presidential Election Thread

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by T.R, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Rubio and Kasich are basically splitting the combined not-quite-crazy vote and the perfectly sane vote. There's apprantly three pools of GOP voters. Those nutty enough to follow Trump, the Dominionists (and those gullible enough to buy their bullshit) lined up behind Cruz, and everyone else. And that latter group is right now being divided. Whether or not that group constitutes enough voters to win the nomination is anyone's guess.
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  2. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    my bet is that Carson has been fooling himself that he had a shot at VP for a month now, if not more, and only stayed in to impress Trump by undermining Cruz
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  3. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I kind of want Rubio to drop and Kasich to stick to see if he can consolidate the sane vote at least enough to make it to a brokered convention where he'd have a real shot
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    If it matters Kasich is only behind by eight points in the last Ohio poll I saw.
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  5. gturner

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    The DC caucus results are in. With 100% reporting.
    Rubio 1,059 37.3%
    Kasich 1,009 35.5%
    Trump 391 13.8%
    Cruz 351 12.4%

    That's right. Apparently there are only 2,810 Republicans living in DC.
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  7. Zombie

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    Kasich has no shot. None. Not a chance in hell. Not a snowballs chance in hell. Not a chance even if liking green eggs and ham.

    Kasich is 100% establishment. Kasich may play the "aw shucks" guy but he's a party boss. Particularly in Ohio. He's also a huge fan of raising taxes along with supporting Obamacare through a massive expansion of medicare which Ohio will suffer for in the near future. And the biggest strike against him? He was part of the banking system and made his money from it after he was no longer in Congress.

    The fact you think Kasich is a good choice while Cruz is "evil" is a clear indication that you're not paying any attention to what's below the surface of these candidates. Typical of leftists when they look at those on the right.

    The voters clearly do not agree with your assessment of Kasich. I'm not talking about the Trump voters either. I'm talking about all the other voters for the other candiates who've heard Kasich and found him lacking.

    And there will be no brokered convention. A brokered convention that doesn't result in Trump or Cruz (depending on whose the lead in delegates) being the nominee will result in a revolt of the voters.

    Hillary will win. You'll be happy.
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  8. gturner

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    You're not going to support a Romney/Bloomberg ticket?
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    Binder Man and the Soda Nazi will never put aside their differences and work together. :(

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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    So, more than Wyoming?
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    The best Republican strategy right now would be not to nominate anyone.

    No Republican opposition, Democratic turnout plummets overall. Democratic turnout plummets, sure Hillary Clinton wins the presidency............................................................but the Republicans most certainly then keep control of both houses of Congress.
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  13. gturner

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    Hillary Clinton can't win, she's the establishment candidate in the year of insurgency.

    Common wisdom and her fierce Clinton tribalists will probably want me burned at the stake for heresy, or chemically altered, or maybe just being hanged from the Tribune Tower will do.

    But this is an insurgent year. And she's the Empress dowager of the Washington establishment.​

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  14. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Just when I thought you could not be any dumber. Why should anyone vote for a party with no ideas? I am glaf you can admit your side has no ideas though.
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  15. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    I will remember your prediction on election night. May it be like 2012 when you clueless dolts discovered polls actually were a real thing.
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  16. tafkats

    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    How amazing is it that a Wellesley-educated feminist who protested the Vietnam War, led student strikes, clerked for a law firm that defended draft resisters, and spent her entire life shattering glass ceilings is now considered "the establishment candidate"?
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  17. gturner

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    Because that describes half of the entire establishment?

    And what glass ceiling did she shatter? Was she the first female senator? No. Was she the first wife whose governor was a philanderer? No. Was the the first wife whose husband was impeached? No. Was she the first woman to destroy the lives of her husbands lovers? No. Was she the first woman whose complete lack of ethics made her lots of money? No. Was she the first female secretary of state? No.
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    Don't forget she also defended a rapist she knew was guilty.

    She also dodged sniper fire that one time. Brian Williams was there. He'll tell you.....

    Come on......

    Shatter glass ceilings? Don't be ridiculous. She hasn't shattered anything other then the lives of the women that Bill raped.
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  19. gturner

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    Did you know she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Almost as amazing as that a Yiddisher kop who grew up in a Brooklyn tenement and whom everyone dismissed as "too old", "too radical", "too much of an extremist," and "not a serious candidate" is her rival.
  21. Nova

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    I don't really think Kasich is a GOOD choice, I think he's an inoffensive white-bread mediocre middling choice given the circumstances. It's just that makes he a thousand times better than a Walking Orange Ego who can't even maintain a coherent train of thought and a committed Dominionist.

    Now given the original field, and forced to choose a Republican, I'd have taken Rand Paul all day long. But the voters in their...wisdom....didn't.

    (oh, and I'm only a "leftist" on equality issues but I understand you see things only in black and white. A true leftist wouldn't be pimping Gary Johnson obsessively)
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  22. Jenee

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    What glass ceilings? She got where she is on the coattails of a man. She isn't anything strong women should aspire to emulate.
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  23. Dayton Kitchens

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    Hillary Clinton's whole campaigns is built on

    1) She is a woman
    2) Nostalgia for the 1990s.

    If people miss the 1990s, they should watch some Seinfeld reruns.
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  26. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Brietbart is probably spinning in his grave that the guy running his company is destroying it.
  28. gturner

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    The opposite is true. Brietbart wouldn't condemn Trump because some Trump guy grabbed the arm of a girl whose usual journalistic practice is to get beaten up and handcuffed by police at Occupy protests. "Frequent victim plays victim" isn't really a basis for a news outlet.
  29. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    While I agree that her journalistic credentials are pretty suspect, an editor is supposed to stand by his reporter. If he's not willing to trust her version when events go wrong, why should he have trusted her to get any story right in the first place?
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