Homophobes, why do you care?

You are over thinking things. His thought process doesn't matter, it is the output that says his understanding of how two consenting adults should behave with each other is the final word.

No, you prat. I was pointing you to the section below it on Sharia.

Sharia:-

A set of legal principles and ethics and laws from the scripture of an Abrahamic religion interwoven into the laws of society.

What you said up thread that you wanted to see:-

More integration of the laws and ethnics from the scripture of an Abrahamic religion into the laws of your country.



What Sharia says about homosexuality:-

It's a sin and therefore should be against the law.

What you stated above you wanted:-

The Christian belief that homosexuality is a sin interwoven into American law. Therefore you wait it to be legal to discriminate against homosexuals.


I don't see how I can explain it more clearly than that....and it doesn't require me to be a legal scholar to see the damned obvious comparison.

How do you know?

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You sound like a man of experience, Ed! Lol...

Um no. That doesn't address what I am saying. What I am saying is why are they free moral agents when if God created everything then he created the concept of evil? Why not just create a human being that lives forever, never gets ill and has no capacity for evil? He can still give such a creature any level of free will he decides. He's God. He can do it all! So why create misery for the people he "loves" and then punish them for his own choices? He's evil...which is interesting because he is the one who created the concept of evil in the first place since he's the divine creator of everything. I'm sorry Dayton, but the more you analyse it the more ridiculous the whole idea becomes because there are so many contradictions.

So which is it, new or old?

I guess that the reason you are so easily swayed by religion is that you don't have the mental capacity to ask questions of it, such as your inability to fully engage in this debate proves.

Christians haven't always existed, and their religion and religion in general is on the wane in the more civilised parts of the world. Luckily, a believer in such fairy tales can choose to stop at any time they so wish with no ill effects; in fact, the effects, both personal and social, are broadly positive.

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Wow... is that the best you could come up with? Don't strain yourself, I know a witty reply like that must have been a monumental achievement for you.

Why should they be cursed? They predate the concept of religion. A man made concept. I'd say they have a greater claim to be natural than the assertions of an unknown author.

Or are you claiming The Bible was around in 10,000 BC to tell homosexuals they were sinners?

No, that's not fair at all. You're just being cowardly as usual because you know you have no credible answers to what I am saying.

What, you're going to whine about being "insulted" by "invisible sky man" just like your past bellyaching about being offended anytime someone criticises your precious dogma? Well, we can both play that card. I have gay friends, including one of my very best friends. Every time you deride homosexuals are unnatural and describe them as evil you are making offensive statements about people I care about. So why shouldn't I also try and use it as an excuse to run away and hide every time you say something I don't believe in? You want to be treated with kid gloves and respect, but you don't want to afford it to others do you? Why is that?

@Dayton3 : What about the Catholics?

Please explain.

Serious question, forgetting about you or anyone elses distaste for it, how/why is homosexuality evil?

Someone goes out and murders a kid - evil.

Someone decides to go to war with half of Europe and gas the jews - yep, i can see its evil.

Two guys getting a bit of backdoor action with each other in the privacy of their own home? Sorry, i can understand you saying its not for you, or even it disgusts you, but evil? Really, you need to back this one up.

Dayton used "no true Scotsman" up thread. Perhaps he thinks that Catholics aren't true Christians!

Perhaps he confuses Catholics with Mormons. These guys are weird as hell!

Becuz....think of da children!!!!!!

I consider the Catholic church to be an extreme bastardization of Christianity. Basically much of Roman Imperial culture graphed into Christianity.

You can do what you want El Chup.

But I'm in no way obligated to engage in a debate with someone who is believing deliberately insulting and demeaning to my belief system (and knows full well he is doing it).

You want to debate, be respectful.

Your friends are completely irrelevant to me. I don't know them. I'm not talking about them specifically.

In other words "I demand you respect me but I don't have to respect you". What an arsehole-ish attitude to have.

Your "belief system" can be said to be equally irrelevant to me because it is fiction. Why should I consider it relevant because you choose to believe it's real?

You are insulting real people I care about. You want me to respect your precious fairytale then you should have the courtesy not to deride people I care about with bigoted terms as "evil" and "unnatural". Even if you weren't you wouldbe insulting my belief system, which is the belief that human beings are equal regardless of sexuality.

Can't have it both ways. You want respect then you have to give it as well. But you want to demand people treat you a certain way while extending a big middle finger to the very same people. That's not the way the world works.

I had hoped that your little brush with serious illness might give you a different perspective on things, but you have seemingly come out of it even more selfish and hypocritical than before. I find that a real shame.

You are a complete hypocritical fuckstain.

When do you show respect for others in your debates? When you try to stir them up enough to tattle to the moderators to get them banned? When you go and accuse them of lying about their profession, "teacher"? When you go into a fan discussion with the sole purpose of shitting on a movie or TV show in the very vain hopes of getting it cancelled to get whatever myopic vision you have of what Trek should be (all WASP crew, I'm sure)?

Even for his lies and batshit moonspeak, not even Gturner stoops that low.

Get bent.

The second phrase has some merit, but it doesn't explain the "extreme bastardization"-part. How does Catholic theology differ from the theology of your tiny Christian sect? Sorry, I can't remember which particular cult you follow. In the US, there are so many splinter cells and heretics, it is rather confusing.

Exactly. As we all know scientists have all chosen to be gay. They would want to justify their immoral lifestyle.

Like you respected Catholicism just one post up?

I always thought that was a neat magic trick, Christianity is a pathetic little cult until Constantine adopts it, then Martin Luther comes along centuries later, then Catholics retroactively aren't true Christians.
Where did Christianity go in between Constantine and Luther?
Subspace?

It's amazing he still can't see his own obvious hypocrisy.

But let's be honest here, Dayton isn't really offended by "invisible sky man". He just pulls out the "I'm offended" card when he has no more answers and wants an easy way out of the debate. If I used "God" in every post from now on he'd find another excuse to run off.

Oh, it's the new forcefield in freeze tag for Christians and Muslims alike.
"You hurt my feewings! ".
Yeah I know, snookums, Internet's just like being eaten by lions.

And it's the very same bible bashing Christians who said "how dare Muslims get offended for cartoons of Mohammad". Oh, but "invisable sky man", that's some rough shit right there.

So many idiots out there.....

When organized Christianity conquered America, it became even dumber. All these evangelical movements with their focus on the Book of Revelations... All these uneducated preachers with their little theophanies... Heretics! Seriously, American Christianity is really weird from an European point of view. Completely backward, even compared to Catholicism. Creationism and other nonsense, or the idea of an impending rapture...

It helps move crappy Kirk Cameron videos, and dehydrated prepper food.
The Bible, it's the scammer's bible.

I sometimes feel embarrassed about the derision and contempt Brits and Continentals direct towards Americans over religion, but when you consider the amount of people who still believe shit like creationism it's very hard not to also feel sometimes it's justified.