There's a new game. Its called playing the Republican card.

From Zombie

So again what is all the crying about? Oh that's right. Trump is a Republican. How could I forget.

I been seeing this all over the place.

But in my book Republicans are always claiming that someone is playing the Race Card. No further investigation is required. They pulled the Race Card so now...fuck em!

Is anybody else noticing this trend?

Huh?

Don't get it? People are out there saying...OH, you don't like this or that because Trump is republican or because it was a republican endorsed policy or whatever. That people are against something...not because its fucked up but because it comes from the republican side.

Zombie needs to start his car, and keep the garage door closed.

Jeb Bush would have sucked, but I wouldn't be fearing for the planet cracking open, and releasing Cthulhu.

Trump sucks because he sucks.
Above and beyond party.
If you're so partisan you'll stand behind this cartoonish fuckup, you're beyond medical help.

Because so many of these clowns seem to have forgotten who won the last election

Say what???? Did you have your morning coffee today? Whut?

Don't look for original thought from conservatives.

Case in point...

I don't drink coffee.

I could care less about party affiliation.

I simply don't like Trump because he's a fucking moron with the temperment and maturity of a 10-year-old spoiled brat.

It's simply true.

The left ignores everything Obama has done. A Republican does it? The left screams holy murder.

Its weak. But I guess you'll ignore me cuz I'm Black.

True.

But at least he's following the right policies for the most part.

Trump's cruel, illegal refugee executive order
Erwin Chemerinsky
The new refugee policy announced by President Trump on Friday is unconstitutional and inhumane. It is also completely unnecessary as a way to protect the United States from terrorism.

Trump’s executive order suspends the entry of refugees into the United States for 120 days. The order also indefinitely stops the admission of Syrian refugees and for 90 days bars individuals from seven predominantly Muslim countries: Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. Possibly due to poor drafting, the Department of Homeland Security said the order applies to green card holders reentering the United States. It resulted in chaos as travelers were kept off flights to the United States or stranded at airports.

On Saturday night, a federal judge in New York issued a temporary stay, allowing green card or visa holders detained at airports to enter the country. The judge declared that the challengers have a “strong likelihood” of prevailing in showing that the Trump order violates due process and equal protection.

Trump’s action, determining one’s ability to enter the country based on nationality and place of residence, is clearly illegal. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 explicitly says that no person can be “discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth or place of residence.” This act was adopted to eliminate the prior practice of immigration quotas from specific countries. Indeed, in signing the legislation, President Lyndon Johnsonsaid that “the harsh injustice” of the national-origins quota system had been “abolished.”

Holocaust Remembrance Day, which should have been an occasion to atone for turning away refugees during the 1930s—some of whom then died in concentration camps. For example, in 1939, the United States turned away the St. Louis, a boat filled with refugees, many of them German Jews. According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, 254 passengers from the St. Louis died in the Holocaust.

Like most American Jews, I had relatives die in the Holocaust because they could not get out and no country would take them.

One of the most astounding aspects of Trump’s executive order is that he seems to have singled out countries where he has no business interests, while giving a reprieve to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, among others, where the Trump Organization is active.

The order is also nonsensical in that foreigners from the seven listed nations killed exactly zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015, according to the CatoInstitute. None of the terrorists from the 9/11 attacks or the Boston Marathon bombing or the San Bernardino shooting or the Orlando, Fla., massacre came from the seven countries listed. The home countries of those responsible were not included.

There is no indication, moreover, that refugees pose a special threat or that the existing intensive screening procedures before admission to the United States are inadequate. For example, Syrian refugees in the United States have not been linked to any terrorist acts.

Syrian refugees are fleeing the violence of a civil war and Islamic State terrorism. The United States has done far too little to help – having taken only 15,000 refugees so far – and the Trump executive order puts a stop to even that.

Although the president has broad powers in the domain of immigration, he does not have unlimited authority. The president cannot order removal of those who are lawfully present and cannot violate federal law or the Constitution. Trump’s order does exactly that. The Saturday night stay helps the green card holders immediately affected, but does not undo the action. If the Trump administration does not reverse himself, Congress and the federal courts must step in.

Erwin Chemerinsky is dean and Raymond Pryke Professor of 1st Amendment Law at the UC Irvine School of Law.

This is completely unsurprising.

or tea.

You're defending an administration that's openly dismissive of facts. You have absolutely no credibility here. Maybe try your gaslighting bullshit somewhere else for the next four years.

Of course it's unconstitutional, especially for those with dual citizenship. My ex wife has dual citizenship and if Trump banned people from Russia, I'd be getting her a lawyer if she were in Russia visiting.

on the other hand, Zombie and Tuttle and others seem fully prepared to claim and own Trump as a personification of Republicanism, so every time he fucks up we can hang it on the whole party, they have surrendered the opportunity to say "oh, but that's just Trump, "real" Republicans don't think that"

I've seen dozens of commentaries from left wing sources which said "Obama shouldn't have done X" but since y'all don't bother yourself to look at "liberal media" you wouldn't know.

Oh course, the left does not find AS MUCH fault with Obama, just as the right did not find as much fault with W for doing things they called out Obama for.

But this weekend is an illustration - more and more veterans of previous Republican administrations are looking at Trump and saying "even we find this shit to be fucked up"

That's the point that the "liberals" you have no respect for keep trying to make, Trump ISN'T being bashed so hard because of typical Republican policies. Those get criticism, but it's typical partisan criticism ("watch out, Paul Ryan is trying to kill Medicare" for example) - but Trump is something much much much worse than "typical Republican doing typically Republican things"

As if you or any other pathetic leftist would have accepted anyone saying "oh, but that's just Trump"

Who the fuck do you think your kidding?

What I don't accept is Oh that's right. Trump is a Republican.

Considering that in a lot of ways, Obama was actually worse than Dubya, yet he was very rarely ever called out on it by the same people who took Bush to task on it, yeah, I'd say there's something to that.

What is worse? The fact that they are "cartoonish fuck ups" or that your side lost to them because you suck more?

Maybe you should figure out how to suck less and actually get people in the needed number of states to vote for you? Just a suggestion which I am sure Dems will ignore.

It's not unconstitutional.

It's been done before. By Obama and other Presidents.

And if your wife is American on that dual citizenship it doesn't apply to her. Nor does it apply to her because Russia is not on the list.

But given the way Russia is acting lately maybe it ought to be on the list.

Yep. My voting sheet is usually a checkerboard of Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Greens, and so on, but I don't like Trump because he's Republican, and not because inside of a week he has turned the nation upside down and worked to actively strip rights away from the people I care about the most. Makes sense.

Thankfully, she's in no danger of that happening.

Openly dismissive of facts?

You mean like the previous guy who said,

• If you like your plan you can keep your plan period
• I never said if you like your plan you can keep your plan
• We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized.
• First of all, I didn’t set a red line;

You can look up the rest if you're honest with yourself..... oh wait you're not....

Shut up, gturner.

Yep. And this proves my point.

The left ignores everything Obama has done. A Republican does it? The left screams holy murder.