Fire chief directs racial slur at Steelers coach over anthem protest

The guys not getting fired for putting pictures of his breakfast on social media. Hes spraying out racial slurs!

The fact you are even raising this as some kind of valid comparison shows why we don't let you talk to the adults!

I don't know anything about you

The way you are scripting it is meaningless - the word racist without a doubt carries weight, just because some people throw around the word too much - and they do - doesn't mean it loses its weight. That's asinine.

It’s amazing how efficient some people are at deflecting when they really don’t want to talk about something.

DD&B!

And we'd rather continue to duck the issue because the newsmedia has trained us to, because they want their circuses. News coverage isn't about exploring issues or delivering actual news, it's about finding one thing after another to get people in a tizzy about and then nudging you into deciding who to hate or defend to the death. And when they've wrung all the ratings out, the issue magically goes away and it's on to the next circus.

This really shouldn't be a big news story, or any size story. I mean, I don't like people disrespecting the flag (and through it, the country), and I don't like people being denied their right to follow their conscience through free speech. So I see the interest for both sides. But there are too many things of actual import going on in the world to be obsessing over this.

Yep, this.

If you use racial slurs in your own home, no one's going to know. Do it on social media, and everyone knows.

Racism aside (and that alone is certainly enough), anyone who is that irresponsible with social media is unsuitable for any public-facing job.

All I see is a blank space. WTF are you trying to say?

There’s this video of a sports commentator that I’d like to share from Twitter, but I’m having a problem trying to embed the link.

That's dumb.

If I say you should go to prison if you write bad checks or if you murder someone, I am not equating writing bad checks with murder.

Lots of things can (and should) get someone fired.

Disrespecting a song is a fireable offense. Got it.

If that no drinking policy is actually in writing (and punishments for violating that policy are explained) and part of your employment contract and you were drinking alcohol then yes, you get fired.

Piss off, fucko.

How great for you and the rest of White America to have the privledge to pick and choose when you care and don't care about race issues. And you know what, I used to believe that if we were *just* a bit better, that us blacks would get more respect from the White Man. But the last five years have opened my eyes up to that shit right quick.

For many of you fuckos, they think they've done enough by not saying the N-word and hiring one token mixed girl with the white name. Its even worse in areas like California because the liberals here are proud that we have good safety nets, but won't hire people with ethnic sounding names. And I said "people," not blacks because the Asians get it real bad too, and we know they can work their asses off. I'm not ignorant of the fact that my own white girl name has kept my resume out of many a trash bin.

I thought out was enough ten years ago that we could go to college and then be seen as equals.

It isn't.

These men get it.

Putting aside the apples to oranges comparison, if you signed that as a part of your conditions to be employed there, 1) you're a moron to agree 2) it's a stupid rule no one would put in place but 3)you have no one to blame but yourself if you were stupid enough to get caught.

Sailors learn this within their first six months onboard any given ship.

okay, the "racial slur" was blurred out. Was it something along these lines? Seriously, that fire chief (now soon to be a FIRED chief) must be one dumb motherfucker.

I can see that since he's a public figure, this just reminds me of situations like when kids get suspended for saying something about someone on Facebook when their not in school.

I'm talking like it's a policy that you can't drink at work.

Some jobs I could see possibly allowing you to continue after racist comments. Yes, it is a bad idea as the person would be unreliable on a team or with customers or clients of a different race, but maybe the boss doesn't care. A person working for rescue, public safety, or for the public in general cannot be relied upon to do their job properly if they are racist. If there was a death resulting from some action of the fire chief and the person was black you would have a tough time saying that death was not caused by some lack of action or action that was due to prejudice. So, you cannot be a fireman, EMT, police, social worker, justice department employee, politician, teacher, military, or many other positions and be posting dumb ass racial bullshit. If a private company wants to open themselves up to potential lawsuits and pay for your racism that is their choice.

Also there is no right to be fire chief and be free to say what you wish. You can say what you wish, but there may be consequences to that. Freedom of speech and religion is not absolute. It does not protect discrimination as upheld by the courts many times.

He's not a kid. He's a public servant responsible for providing an essential service to everyone in his community, regardless of race. When the service being provided is literally a matter of life and death, do you trust the guy that apparently maintains a "no good niggers" list to serve all members of the community equally?

Okay, I'll admit I was wrong on this.

I remember going to a lot of sporting events before 9-11 and a lot of people didnt stand for the national anthem.

Doing something that offends a great many of yout customers (indeed, is intended to offend them) is a fireable offense. Got that?

Technically the info might not legally be able to enforce such a thing even if contracted. I think they may operate some of their employment under a tax free area of the code meant to cover sports organizations for the public. I am not sure, but there are some sports leagues that operate in this area. I wood not be surprised to find out they avoid taxes in this way, but I am not sure they do. If they do their legal requirements tsunami may be different

However, since they probably do operate as an e entertainment company u dear normal legal laws you are correct they probably have morals clauses in their employ ment contracts that would allow them to nullify players contracts as the players are not hourly employees. This would be at their discretion, but probably not something they would want to do seeing as how smacking your bitch up while drunk does not seem to get good players fired. It is one thing not to hire a released player and another to fire your stars.

Yeah, now you want to talk about creepy... We must all recite our daily loyalty oath, children.

It's not intended to offend them, nor is it an inherently offensive act such as calling someone a racial slur. The players' actions are offensive by the fans' choosing to be offended. I imagine there are just as many fans who were not offended, and would perhaps be even more offended if these players got fired. Still doesn't place it even in the same ball park as racial slurs, nor an inherently fireable offense. Again, one is inherently offensive and may lead to criminal liability for discrimination. The other is a matter of opinion.

Yes, it is. It is an act that, by its very public nature, is designed to insult. it is a calculated affront to the values of the customers.

That's true of any offense.

If you work at McDonalds and express ideas that are offensive to the customers, you can and should be fired.

Same thing.

Your freedom of expression does not extend to service on company time (or even, as the fire chief case shows, off it).

You completely misunderstand the nature of the protest--now it makes sense why the rest of your reasoning is flawed.

They have a right to protest as the owners agreed to it in collective bargaining but customers have a right to say I won't support an industry that allows something I find offensive. Will customers do that in sufficient numbers for the industry to take note? I have my doubts.