Mueller Investigation

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  1. Dinner

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    Hmm, this pop corn is delicious. I wonder why rightforge doesn't seem to want any? It is like they lost their appetite. ;)
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    Still bucking for a Section 8, eh Nova?
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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  5. Anduril

    Anduril So tired Git

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    Here's the real story, since people can't seem to follow facts:

    The 31-page indictment that you probably didn't read discusses Manafort and Gates and outlines money laundering, fraud, and tax evasion between 2006 and 2015. The ONLY part of the indictment that mentions 2016 in any capacity is in relationship to the two lying about said money laundering, fraud, and tax evasion.

    Papadopoulos is indicted for issuing false statements to the FBI, not for conspiracy or collusion. If you read this indictment, which again I'm sure you didn't, you'll find that the 'meetings' were initiated by Russia. The indictment only says Papadopoulos e.mailed campaign officials about the prospect of meeting with Russia to discuss foreign policy. It appears that Papadopoulos knew the Russians had "dirt" on Clinton, but the indictment does NOT say or speculate that content of that "dirt" was shared with the Trump Campaign or even Papadopoulos for that matter.

    Now that we're caught up, Clinton/DNC law firm retained Fusion GPS, who then hired Christopher Steele to compile the Trump Dossier. Clinton and the DNC funneled money through the law firm to Fusion GPS and failed to report those exchanges accurately, as noted by a complaint from the FEC. Steele consulted with Russian counterparts for information on Trump. The alleged meetings in Trump Tower that Dems say "prove" collusion just so happened to be with people connected to Fusion GPS. To make matters worse, it now appears that select republicans were on Hillary's payroll.

    To recap, there is still NO report of Trump or Trump campaign collusion. On the other hand, it is looking more like Clinton and the DNC may have colluded with the RNC and Fusion GPS to place people in Trump's campaign/path that would later help substantiate a Trump dossier.
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  6. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    I got a huge bag of popcorn, and I'm loving this; nothing better than seeing the corrupt and the scumbags revealed for what they are. I love being wrong about stuff like this when I make unpalatable predictions.

    It's excellent news that, unlike Star and Fitzgerald before him, this bloodsucking taxpayer-teet-slurping-suit seems to actually be using the many other taxpayer-funded-suits to follow the information where it leads. Seems in fact that there's an excellent chance that Hillary's Russia Russia Russia narrative will lead a fair investigation right to the black heart of the soulless democrats like the Podestas that were probably as or more culpable as the rightwingers in any actionable collusion with the Ruskies to 'rig' the election in their favor.
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    So much deflection from the right wingers it's embarrassing. Hanitty is in full meltdown mode. Quick look over there! It's the Clintons!

    Trump has had so many ties to Russians over the years (see South Florida real estate ventures) it's practically impossible for there not to be collusion.
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  8. 14thDoctor

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    Oh shit, the judge assigned to the Manafort case is a black woman appointed by Obama. The racist/sexist/conspiracy-minded Trumpian meltdowns are going to be epic. :hyper:
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  9. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Except GP was caught lying about collusion while part of the Trump campaign. You need more up to date talking points. :lol:
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  10. Dinner

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    Except Podesta is only involved because he used to work with Manafort. Also it is Tony Podesta not John Podesta. That is a huge difference.
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  11. Anduril

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    “Oh no! I feel for a phishing scam! Better blame Russia! Fuck this child abuser.
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    Remember it is all Hillary. All of these guilty trump people are guilty because Hillary did it. She was the one who does it when a republican gets caught fiddling a teen boy in the bathroom, it was Hillary. Bill Clinton has an affair and threatens women to keep them quiet, it was Hillary. Failed war in Iraq, it was Hillary. JFK assassinated, where was Hillary that day? She was on the grassy knoll with magic bullets. Anduril gets the wrong order at the drive through, it was Hillary. Bill O'Reilly and Harvey Weinstein rape women, it was Hillary. Bill Cosby rapes women, it was Cosby of course because he is black. 9/11 that was Hillary shooting missiles at the Pentagon and she spent months wiring all the trade center buildings in a controlled demolition along with faking footage and eye witness accounts. The last Vegas shooter was actually Hillary. Dylan roof, actually Hillary dressed as a boy. Adolf Hitler, that was Hillary using Obama's time machine. Kiddie pornography on @TheLonelySquire 's hard drive was a actually Hillary. Hillary infected @Dayton3 's foot with flesh eating bacteria from secret government labs. Bronies were created by Hillary to turn all men into women.

    You know if we could just stop Hillary every problem in the world would go away. Now I know why the right wing despises her so much. The woman is almost as powerful as Obama when you think about it. She even made trump president so he could destroy the world with incompetence.
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    Some indications Papadopalopadoodah's Russian shenanigans involved Sessions and thus he was lying EVEN MORE when he said he had no knowledge of Russian connections.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/10/30/jeff-sessions-indictment-bad-news-for-attorney-general/
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  14. matthunter

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    Did you know that Obama was actually Hillary in blackface? So it is all Hillary's fault. Look cheeseburger emojis.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    It is a good thing the right wing sees through her nefarious plots. It was quite crafty of her to destroy trump by losing the election to him. That way no one but the right wing would ever figure it out.
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    It's also been pointed out elsewhere that all that laundered money surely helped Manafort work on the Trump campaign "for free." :async:
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    Yep, we totally have proof of collusion.
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  20. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    You really aren't smart enough to understand the difference between John and Tony?
  21. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I'm not sure that's proof of actual collusion in and of its self since, presumably, that meeting never took place. It seems to me like Jared and Jr.'s meeting is far more damning than that.
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  22. K.

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    With all respect to John and Tony, I am still more worried that so many people fail to understand the difference between pizza and child abuse. That's how far down the rabbit hole we are -- we are trying to remind them that they are misremembering who they are accusing of molesting children on the basis of emails about pizza, having given up on reminding them that pizza is pizza!
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    Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?
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    Clovis is a climate change denier in charge of the USDA, where response to climate change is pretty fucking important. That corn may be delicious, but under Clovis it's using a fuckton more fertilizer than it should.
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    Before the election Clovis was George P.'s boss and he sebt several emails to George P. directing he to make contact with the Putin regime with the purpose of getting help in the election.
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    Fake news. Trump doesn’t eat salad. :bergman:
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    "Whataboutism" is a propaganda tactic of the Kremlin. Here's a site I heard about on NPR today that monitors accounts known to be controlled by Kremlin oriented accounts and gives graphical representation as well as analysis.

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    Most of the right's talking points originate in Russia.
    ETA: see the link in @Quest 's signature. He saw it first...
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