The Walking Dead Season 8 [SPOILERS]

Starts tonight but I still haven't caught up with season 7.

Omg, was that stupid or what. I am going to put this without spoiler tags because it is in the first ten minutes of the episode and not a hanging point. The whole fucking head staff of the saviors walks out the front door into the line of site of a shit ton of Ricks people and they don't just mow them down? What the fuck is that? Strategically the saviors would not be able to recover without that many of their generals and somehow you let anyone live through such an extraordinarily stupid move. Really they just walked out under no cover at all and no one shot them despite them being clear open targets? I don't care what your fucking plan is but if neegan and all of his commanders walk out onto a platform for target practice and you have a shit ton of people with assault rifles and full auto spray capability you open fire. You do not have to wait or delay or have any of the rest of your plan. You wipe out their command structure and mop up the rest.

I am going to leave this out here in case you do not want to watch this horribly written conflict. Everyone I watched with could not figure out why you would not just shoot them all dead after they came out the door. I mean you might wait to see how far the stupid train was going to go, but when every head bad guy you know of is standing out in the open under no cover at all you say thank you Lord for stupid people and everyone unloads in that general area insuring you kill every one of them for being so monumentally stupid. Why are we afraid of neegan when he seems to be a giant fucking moron.

Now I will put the spoilers for the continuation of why this episode was so fucking stupid because the rest of these points go beyond just that one moment.

I don't know if I can take another episode as stupid as that one was.

On the plus side, I have a new expression:

"I hope you brought your shitting pants"

I was so in awe at the stupidity I completely forgot about that gem. Thanks for reminding me. That was something special. I was really thinking there would be nothing as stupid as this season of fear the walking dead. But no, I now see we are trying to compete for which one can be the worst.

Yea. @Tererun said it already. Can they please get a few zombies as tactical advisors?

Maye they just wanted to show that Rick is somewhat 'better' than Negan. Well guess what, we're long past that. He murdered his way through guards and stuff and suddenly develops a conscience when he has a clear shot at all the enemy leaders?!

Stupid is the right word.

Ha! I made the same comment to Holly as we were watching last night. ""Geez, Rick, just shoot the bastard. You've got a clear sight line."

After thinking about it some more I think it is actually all going to be a dream Rick is having. It was disjointed and they kept flashing to sweating Rick with something shining a rainbow in his eyes. I really think they are going to lead us through a huge battle with a whole bunch of really stupid things which we are all going to be fooled into talking about and it will all end up being a dream Rick was having.

I am not really sure if that will be better. It was interesting when they did it with Glen supposedly dying next to the dumpster, but if this is the case I am going to feel even more like moving on. Especially after I watched fear of the walking dead bring back Daniel after we know he killed himself burning up with the zombies.

Just shoot the fucking guy and his lieutenants, jesus christ this show is getting tiresome

It seems neegan as a villain is unsustainable. The governor was a problem because he lied and took advantage of his people and created a loyal fighting force with the promise of a safe haven and a huge chunk of our old life in the new world. He set his people against the prison and Rick when they could have worked together. He then set the next group against the prison by manipulating his way into their leadership and telling them the prison was a threat. It made sense that he got people to follow him.

Neegan does not make any sense because when you think about his empire he could never control it. His lieutenants are all evil and power hungry and and there is only so far you could keep them in line before they started getting ambitions of their own. All those people would eventually revolt against a super cruel leader who did not give much back. Neegan was creepy when we knew little about him. The more we learn about him the more he is horribly written and cannot be the power he was when he first took rick's group and killed Abraham and Glen. One guy simply cannot see that many people and territory without having glaring weaknesses and people willing to rebel against him. Cruelty and fear only work when you are always there watching, but neegan cannot watch all the places constantly. You simply could easily set up a resistance to him.

In the end terminus and the governor were much larger problems. They did the governor very well, but they never did much with terminus when they could have spent a season dealing with them instead of having Carol wipe them out. They built that whole thing up to a terrifying season ender and then moved on. We never found out a lot about the cannibals. It was a huge waste. You could have done that with neegan much better. The terminus cannibals could have been developed into an enemy they had to battle and defeat like this, but neegan could have been a terrifying madman who they toppled quickly, but he was deadly to deal with.

They have some bad writers in the fall. All the fall seasons have been poorly written with some huge stupid. The spring has seen some Mich better development and the creepier episodes and best character development.

I've had similar thoughts. Either Negan and his goons are going to run into a bigger, badder version of themselves or one of the lieutenants is going to get uppity and put a bullet in the back of his head. His system is unsustainable.

However, it must be remembered that the TV series is (loosely) based on the comic book, and the producers feel themselves somewhat constrained by what's happened in the comic.

I'm at the point now where I'm ready for the end game of this series. If we move on from Negan to another even more badder big bad, I'm done. I've enjoyed the show but 8 seasons is plenty.

what if the whole fucking series is just a dream and Rick wakes up in the hospital and none of this ever even happened? Nothing on this show is weirder than any of my dreams so I wouldn't be surprised!

I am actually afraid of that because there was some flashing back to the start. This could very well be what Rick hallucinate as he was dying in the very first episode.

how about this twist: Rick wakes up in a cold sweat i n the hospital and realizes it was all just one long terrifying nightmare. The he hears feet shuffling down the hall and into his room come.......ZOMBIE NURSES! Now he has to LIVE that awful nightmare for real!

Why do I get the feeling that is the plot of a walking dead porno?

That episode sucked. The directing was awful, everything was too choppy and hard to follow and apparently in the Walking Dead verse, you're either amazing with a handgun and can shoot someone in the head with one quick shot or you can't hit the side of a barn from 10 feet away with an assault rifle.

Yeeesh.

Great, this is now like a video game. A whole big gunfight episode. I am realising you have to let the audience in on the plan or else you lose a lot of the suspense. I do not even know where they are attacking or how well they are occupying neegan's realm. It is hard to know if this is a hard battle or if it is going pretty well because it seems like they are going along pretty good, but then some of the scenes suggest they are in peril. I don't know who is successful and who is having trouble. In the gay guy's assault were they supposed to be just holding them there? Was that good or bad? Where the fuck are Rick and Daryl? What exactly are they raiding? Do the people at the satellite outpost have the time to take prisoners? I am not sure if I am supposed to be bothered by Morgan wanting to kill people, or if it was a good idea because they are risking future plans by slowing themselves down with these people. We hear there is a progression so maybe you have to kill those people because you need to be at the next attack and you cannot be watching all those people.

I do not know what to think about any of this because seriously this is all neegan has? He keeps telling them they are in trouble, but I do not see any decent traps and strategy for holding these places. Really they just put molten metal on some zombies so they might bite a person if they got too close and that was the big protection the front gates of neegan's main base had? Is he a fucking idiot? I am looking at this assault and you could have set shit up so much better. With a little bit of work they could have easily stood against neegan if this is all he was. The only reason Glen and Abraham got killed seems to be because they were not careful.

concerning Negan's crew who the fuck chooses and trains their guards? You know there's a war going on and you just stand there perfectly still in front of the door like a ceremonial Buckingham Palace guard waiting to eat a bullet? Ever hear of "see but don't be seen?" Also if you have two guards for one building you split them up - one at the northeast corner, one at the southwest corner. Now you have 360 degree coverage and two smaller, independent targets. Give walkie-talkies or other communications to each guard and one person inside and they can all coordinate their defensive actions. Damn I know "it's just a show" but nobody stupid could survive for this long with zero tactical thinking. Everyone involved is in danger of being outwitted by the zombies!

If this next episode is more gunfight with no resolution I am going to dvr the rest and binge watch them. It is hard to keep track of a gunfight over three episodes or more. It is good to have a story arc, but you have to have another plot to keep the weekly watching going.

Omg, I like gay people and I did not get a thing from that death. You did not develop the character and relationship. Coral having to kill his mother was horrible because we saw the relationship. When Carol had to kill the girl who liked the walkers we got development. Yes, they were in love and that sucks but you forgot to put in the relationship stuff that would really make it work. Really both the characters were background characters. They are the gay guys but aside from that there was not much known about them. Ok it was nice to see it done with gay characters but it sort of feels like you had that happen like that just because they were gay.


Oh, and there is over preparation for bad things. We all saw an ambush coming a mile away. Things are going so great for Carol and the king. We knew you were going to make an immediate hit.

However I do like the thought provoking ideas of what would you do with prisoners. We have done this before, but you are doing it well again. So that part is working.

Oh my god. Ok, the big gun rips people apart and kills everyone really easily, but when it is aimed at Rick and hits his jeep all of a sudden the bullets are bouncing. I was suspending disbelief over using tin roofing as a shield that stops bullets, but the big gun should have ripped rick's jeep apart, and him apart given how it was shot up.

Oh and don't be fucking with Carol. She will take out your whole team. She may not know how to go through a doorway or look both ways before crossing the street to avoid the car that should have been clearly audible on the road, but she is going to fuck your compound up all on her own. Your whole fighting force cannot take Carol out when using guns and regular weapons. You better try to run her over as that seems to be her weakness.

two words about last night's episode............POOR KITTY! Off to the great litter box in the sky! What a catastrophe.

Those zombies were aroused for hours.

Melissa McBride's character in "The Mist", survived walking out into the mist unarmed, so...Melissa McBride characters are just luck invincible.

they should really think about ending this. it was never going anywhere since S1 and still isn't.

but how to end it. either badly, deus ex machina or... *thinking*... taking a boat and going to a zombie free island.

I like where the comics are going now.
They finally find a pocket of people that have industrial fabrication back up and running, and have made plastic zombie-proof Stormtrooper armor suits for themselves, and are way more organized.
If they did that for next season after they beat Negan, I'd stick around.
Have them finally start to actually bring the world back, like in "World War Z", the novel.

Yeah, but didn't she meet an untimely end if I remember right.

Nope, she's alive and well on one of the Army jeeps at the very end.

Walking Dead has severely overstayed it's welcome, and the drastically declining ratings prove it.

I dropped the comic after issue #100 because by that point it had been repeating itself for dozens of issues, and was going nowhere in terms of plot. That's why Kirkman was resorting to killing off major characters like Glenn for shock value.

It seems the TV show is in trouble, because in the comics it's really become Carl's story. But the teen who plays Carl on TV simply isn't a good enough actor to be able to carry the show forward or pull off more serious drama.

Tiger Blood! Winning!!!!