Shooting at Florida high school

Absolutely. So here's the thing: Incompetent teacher bitches to parents; parents run to pediatrician; pediatrician prescribes Ritalin. No psych evaluation, not follow-up; parents are strapped to afford the Ritalin. X-number of years later, kid goes ballistic. Rinse, repeat.

I'm not sure @Dayton3 posted that pic of himself...
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I mean, guns aren't going to do much when faced with a government that can send drones to blow you up from the sky.

Guns make people feel safe and secure in much the same way that airport security does. Neither actually helps, but it feels like it's helping.

The key difference being that being forced to take off my shoes at the airport doesn't run the risk of 17 schoolchildren being murdered (unless my feet really stink).

"Good morning students, welcome to biology class!"

Onus is on you, . How many times does that have to be explained to you?

No granny, it's on you, you made the claim, flashy asked you to prove it.

Your grandmother posts here, too? Extraordinary.

Flashy made a claim, not I. Try to read for comprehension this time. Or if you're bored with the topic, move on.

Flashlight doesn't post here anymore, quit making shit up.

You made the claim that you have signatures, prove it.

So it appears that THE GOOD GUY WITH A GUN who was on the premises, decided not to engage the murderer.

Don’t really blame him, he probably heard the AR-15 fire and was likely armed with a handgun. Plus factor in that he probably didn’t know how many shooters there were. Those aren’t good odds.

But yeah it does speak to how having armed people protecting students isn’t a 100% effective measure

Any real gun aficionado would have stormed in there and taken that motherfucker down. You think Wayne LaPierre would have waited outside? Hell no.

Actually all his attempts have been misfires or missed the mark entirely.

What are you doing about gun control? The neurotic gun owner (redundant) needs careful consideration before they slide into psychosis.

Most of these shooters commit suicide the moment they are engaged. A 15 year old unarmed boy was shielding classmates with his body while a coach was doing the same while this officer waited outside while people were slaughtered.

According to the sheriff:

should have "[w]ent in. Addressed the killer. Killed the killer."

well Garamet what am I doing about gun control? I'm not the one with my panties in a bind over it. I feel that the bigger issue in the school shooting is mental health.
And yes I am dealing with that within my own family so I'm all into that.

You're pretty naive.

Colonel Kurtz (not that this has anything to do with the lack of gun regulation in the US):

"I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile: a pile of little arms. And I remember I...I...I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized, like I was shot — like I was shot with a diamond...a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God, the genius of that. The genius! The will to do that: perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand it. These were not monsters. These were men, trained cadres — these men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who have children, who are filled with love — but they had the strength — the strength! — to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling, without passion, without judgement. Without judgement! Because it's judgement that defeats us."

And while the Sheriff of Broward County was acting like an idiot at that town hall the other day he knew his deputy did nothing.

I never thought I'd have to work so hard to convince a bunch of people on the left that the police acted incompetently.

The problem with the gun control debate is that both sides have staked out absolutist positions and there's no willingness to compromise. The lamestream media has disingenuously convinced people (like the Parkland students) that extremist positions like "ban all guns" are reasonable and mainstream. They're not, and pushing unrealistic ideas does nothing but cripple the debate.

Refresh my memory, was there a lot of time spent discussing gun bans when these guys committed a mass shooting?

When seconds count, the Police are cowering outside in a safe, barricaded position.

I don't know what this deputy was thinking in that moment, but I am not impressed with the douchebag sheriff scapegoating him and blaming him for the tragedy. Not when the sheriff's office and the local FBI repeatedly failed to act on information and intervene with this kid. Sheriff Goober should already have resigned in disgrace. His hysterical performance at the laughable CNN town hall charade was some of the most cringeworthy stuff I've seen in a long time.

Yep.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/arm-me-with-campaign_us_5a8fcc3de4b03b55731aa066

So in that case, it would be a good idea to have your own gun.

Nobody is ever going to value your life over their own. The issue isn't that the armed deputy never never went back in, it's that nobody else inside the school had the means to defend themselves.

Americans need to stop letting people like garamet, 14th Douche and matthunter tell them they don't have a right to self-defense with a firearm. If they want to be helpless sheep, if they want their children to be easy prey, so be it. But not me. Not my family.

The Vietnamese had the support of Soviet Union and China supplying them weapons and equipment - artillery, aircraft, small arms, infantry support weapons, vehicles. North Vietnam had a legit army who in turn supplied their southern communist brethren.

Oh no, I can't believe the meme you used makes you look like you have no idea what you're talking about

I did not.