Religion without God

It’s figurative you buffoon. This is why Ed629 used to call you autistic.

Now answer my question please. What is disgusting about homosexual relationships?

It strikes me as a perversion of the natural order of things. The same way one is disgusted when some animals eat their own young. Or a dog licks up its own vomit. Or a person injects themselves with opiates.

You don't seem to understand what the natural order of things even is as I illustrate below....

Natural for some species.

Natural.

Even in a medical setting?

Not a bombshell. Being married doesn't preclude homosexual relationships - just ask the Republican Congressmen and conservative preachers who've been caught in recent years (and they may be the tip of the iceberg). In the Greek tradition, marriage was for clean clothes, a hot dinner when you came home from talking philosophy on the stoa all day or watching naked teenage boys in the wrestling ring, and making babies so that the boys could grow up to be philosophers. Xanthippi's name is synonymous with "nag" or "termagant," but face it, Socrates was no bargain as a husband.

And in terms of context, didn't Jesus tell Peter to "abandon his nets" and come follow him? That would include abandoning his wife and family. So while Paul may have been a widower, the disdain for women that seeps through the Epistles suggests he may simply have gotten tired of being told not to leave his underwear on the floor, packed his wineskin, and left town.

Few things are as annoying as a reformed "sinner" (like Paul, like Augustine in a later time), who has all his fun in his youth, suffers a crisis in middle age, and spends the rest of his life telling other people not to spend their life in the House of the Rising Sun.

More to the point, IMO, once Paul came on the scene, it was no longer Christianity, but Paulism. Jesus never said Word One about homosexuality, and people like Dayton always have to fall back on Paul with the same zealousness that oldfella greets every White Killer with an AR-15 thread with "B-b-but Chicago!!!11"

If a man, and a bloody teacher at that, can’t feel embarrassed about running away from his own declarations, then wow. Just wow.

You keep calling us immoral. Should a man who passes judgement on what is immoral and what isn’t not be expected to explain his claims of immorality.

@Dayton3 - please indicate what disagreement you have with my description of Herods Temple.

Only if you agree up front to accept my claims as valid if I present them. Otherwise there is not point. It would be "casting pearls before swine" (really no offense to a deviant like yourself).

@Dayton3 Claims Omniscience Again...film at 11.

Oh wow. Just when you think he can’t get any dumber.

You are comparing the instinctive behaviour of animals to drug taking???????!?????! Jesus wept. Dayton you are doing my head in. This HAS to be trolling. How are you allowed near children with this level of stupidity?????!

You still haven’t answered anyway. Homosexuality is disgusting because a cat cleans its young with a tongue is not an answer. It’s ludicrous!

What's wrong with that? Paul(originally Saul) was chosen by Christ. His account of his conversion was presented to the Apostles of Christ and they accepted it as being legitimate.

So he claims.
Without proof.

People have always been gullible.

I didn't.

If I accepted your claims as valid up front you would not need to explain to me why you are right you utterly insufferable idiot!

Why do you always answer with a cowardly non- answer?

Why should you, who claims he is morally superior, not be expected to justify that claim when questioned on morality?

Today in the Iran thread I pointed out how you believed in inequality and denigrating your fellow human beings. You’re doing it right now and you’re too dumb to see how aren’t you?

Sorry, I’d support you on this but you know you’ve already won when he doesn’t even know the basic teachings of own religion, let alone scholarly discussion.

Herod’s Temple to him is a ministry just west of Texarcana.

You've been there too?

His "conversion" has all the earmarks of an epileptic seizure. Sometimes these include visual and auditory hallucinations.

Dayton would dismiss Joseph Smith's delusions about the Golden Tablets, but Paul because Paul's biases resonate with his own.

Oh, Dayton would have LOVED Brigham Young's version of Mormonism.

And the people with him had visual and auditory hallucinations as well?

Of course because IIRC in the New Testament we are specifically warned to accept no other future revelations even if presented by an angel of God. That's pretty clear.

So much for Lee Strobel then.

Where are their first-person accounts? All you have is Paul claiming "there were three other guys with me who can back me up."

Was that warning issued before or after Saul of Tarsus limped into town with his fantastic tale? Because if it's before, you can no longer accept Paul - who was born 5-8 years after Jesus died - as an authority.

Lee Strobel made no claims of any new revelations.

I'm pretty sure it is part of Revelations. Which makes it AFTER everything else.

"Pretty sure." But you don't know for certain. This is ostensibly the most important document in your life/afterlife, and you're "pretty sure." That says it all.

Oh, that's right, he's just some average generic asshole who wrote some shit down.
Even less authoritative than Paul.
By leaps and bounds.
But you think he's jaw-droppingly brilliant.

I never said any of that. I simply believe his arguments and reasoning are sound.

Which is a meaningless statement given that nothing can persuade you otherwise.

You negrepped the post.

The sad thing about the rep system is that you can't pick and choose which parts of a post to rep.