This is the problem with many Star Wars "fans"

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  1. shootER

    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    The only season premiere of that show that didn’t originally run in September was the fourth season (8 OCT 04).
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I was referring to every other show I usually watched got pushed back a few weeks for coverage.
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Getting back to the topic, I think there's potential to expand the SW universe, but I'm okay with the Skywalker saga ending with Episode IX. All the original leads are dead and gone and I'm not all that invested in the new leads to see their adventures furthered.

    Although I will laugh if Reylo becomes canon and the Tumblr shippers who have shit bricks over people preferring them over Finn/Rey officially explode and Quit Star Wars Forever(tm) :?:
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  5. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Mark Hamil and Harrison Ford are still alive, but yeah.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I mean lead characters....I assume Ghost Luke will put in an apperance and they've worked in Leia somehow, but there's nothing left to mine from the original trio anymore.
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  7. Minsc&Boo

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    James earl jones is a great actor.
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    "This is the problem with many Star Wars 'fans.'"-- a Star Wars fan
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Where there is a whip....I mean Disney exec.....there is a way.
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  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    FTFY.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Be silent boy! When I make a rankin/bass LOTR reference you should shut up with your Pokemon bullshit. don't make me beat you with my 2nd edition ad@d dungeon masters guide again. I have twenty sided dice that are older than you so show some respect before I ram a betamax cassette up your chocolate wizzway sideways.

    Now I get why pickard didn't want children on the bridge. Go play with the dog or something.
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    Stupid man children, don't they know star wars wasn't made for them?
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  14. Bickendan

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    The prequels were better (Jar Jar needed better writing/acting, and I'll accept 'not existing') than TFA and Last Jedi :bailey:

    Rogue One shits on the prequels, though.
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  15. We Are Borg

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    A piece of shit that's been stuck on the inside of a toilet bowl for several months is better than the prequel trilogy.
    You're dead to me. :bergman:
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Aside from the bad acting and jar jar what was wrong with the prequels? We really get the story of anakin getting turned into vader. I will admit you could have better dramatized that, but they were the story of the fall of an empire due to it's own hubris.
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    There's nothing wrong with the prequels... except for the wooden acting, poor direction, ham-fisted writing, unlikeable characters, lack of drama and awful CGI sets. :shrug:
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    So,the lightsaber duels.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    space battles were pretty good...
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    With the exception of the CGI, people said that about the original ANH in the 70's.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I dunno, 13 year old me was barely able to follow the convoluted plot of Episode I when I paid to watch it in theaters and I've never gotten past the pod race scene without falling asleep no matter what time of day I watched it. :shrug:
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  22. We Are Borg

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    I was there, and no they didn't.

    Yes, there were some critics who were extremely... critical... of the film, but the overwhelming consensus was that it was a really fun popcorn flick. Even the critics who complained about the dialogue and acting grudgingly admitted that the film was a lot of fun. The prequels never even got that kind of love.
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    You said I'm wrong, then you said I'm right.
    Make up your mind.
    No, I'll do it for you.
    I'm right.
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    That part I won't contest.
    But I didn't to start with.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Here you go, @Tuckerfan , and that’s just a small example.

    Now @We Are Borg and @Diacanu will tell me how stupid I am and how wrong RLM is.
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    We've had this conversation. I'm a speed reader. I'm not wasting my time watching a video when I can get the same information spending a minute or two reading text. :bailey:
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    @OP

    They may be unbearable to watch on YouTube, but they're not wrong. All four Disney Wars movies thus far have sucked.
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  28. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You said you weren't going to go back and re-read the old threads, so I don't know what you want from me.
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    I don't rate any of the SW movies as sucked. episode 1 was a bit kid oriented, but anakin was supposed to be legendary and in the realm of the story he would be doing amazing things as a kid so it fits because of who he was. If the force is real and he was this overwhelming nexus of force strength, then he would be doing some amazing stuff above and beyond what a normal kid could accomplish. That is going to look a bit "spy kids" sort of silly. The Jar Jar thing goes along with having a dumb comic relief mascot for a kids show. If you took that out it might have looked a lot less like a children's movie. But you are talking about something that producers wanted to have appeal for that demographic over the adults who wanted the story. I can look beyond that.

    The prequels by nature were not going to be the rebel cowboy saves the universe that the original SW movies were. This was the decline of the empire. It could have been darker. It was going to be hopeless, and it was going to be a lot of political manipulation. In a new hope we were at the point where vader and the emperor were doing away with the impereal senate they corrupted and used. They did not have a huge war mand take over like a LOTR thing, they infiltrated and corrupted a huge empire that had become bloated and weak. It was supposed to be a lot of manipulation and politcal intrigue which is an entirely different sort of movie from an action space adventure. The emperor is not waging war, but rather using political aliances to subvert the system and gain control until the point where the senate can be removed and his power structure can replace it.

    That is anakin's story. It is not heroically saving the universe from a horrible new weapon. It is not even huge battles where he fights powerful enemies. It is not the original star wars story. Lots of people who like the original star wars story might not be fans of political manipulation and faction fighting of an old empire. The problem I see is where the movies try to keep the action of the original star wars movies in the prequels where it really was not going to be around anakin. The action really would have been with hpow the rebels became who they were, and anakin would have been an opponent.

    The prequels do show those things, but they are more subplots and end results. This was what you were going to see following anakin around. Trying to shoehorn in fighting was problematic. It may have been better if they followed the jedi order more. For what they were supposed to show I think they did an ok job, and were interesting over all. I can watch them because I am not expecting a space adventure as much as I am wanting to see the manipulation and turning of vader and the empire into an evil fascist regime.
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    Right, I'm not wading through 100+ pages of posts, and I'm not watching a video. If you can't summarize what the video has to say, then I can't help you. If, OTOH, you can make a compelling argument in support of your point, I'll listen, and perhaps watch the video.
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