Democrats and Anti-Semitism

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  1. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    So somehow criticizing Israel as a country is worse than walking around with tiki torches talking about jews will not replace us and resurrecting the Nazi movement in the US?

    More crazy from the delusional right.
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  2. K.

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    Yeah, only that is not a position we've encountered. The only people unconcerned about Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, and about bombs against Israel, are the same profiteers that also co-operate with the Israeli government when they need weapons or oil.

    There is one exception on your list: Holding Israel to a different standard. The following does not apply to the US any longer, because Saudi Arabia is now their preferred ally, but for e.g. Germany, Israel is an ally and Saudi Arabia is not. Holding an ally to a different standard than an enemy makes sense.
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  3. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Actually, no it doesn’t. The standard is pretty much why one is an ally and the other is not. Ideally, anyway.
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  4. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    How can you even talk in those terms when he is in charge? He left the kurds high and dry in syria. That was his decision. I may want US troops out of those wars, but your justification should be clearly that he has no allies that he would not cut and run from.
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  5. K.

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    That's the same thing.
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    If there's evidence that the people holding pro-BDS protests, picketing at ports of entry, and demanding that universities divest from Israel in their investment portfolios devote just as much time and energy to pushing for the same actions against any other country, I'd like to see it.

    In general, I agree; we are more likely to protest actions by our own government or that of an ally than we are to protest actions by North Korea, for example, because we all know that Kim Jong Un is a monster and that position is relatively uncontroversial. There's little point in protesting for a position that's already almost universally acknowledged. But in the U.S. at least, several pretty terrible governments are our allies, and while you can certainly find people protesting that fact, the sheer amount of energy devoted to seeking sanctions against Israel dwarfs them.
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  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    :notthisshit:

    Serious question to @T.R (who, like most of the chickenshits, has me on Ignore): What ethicity is "Jewish"? (Do I really have to post photos again?) Or, for that matter, what ethnicitis is "Islamic"? Bet you can't answer that, nor will you.

    Chickenshit. :bailey:
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  8. K.

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    I do get that. I sort of consider your alliance with Saudi Arabia to be so obviously bullshit that I don't treat them the same way. One aspect to consider is that protesting this Israeli government's actions is aligning with the democratic opposition in Israel. That is not necessarily true for SA. And do the universities pressured to divest from Israel invest in Saudi Arabia or NK in the first place?
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    Given the huge number of ties between U.S. and Saudi businesses, I'd be pretty surprised if they didn't. Not intentionally, but because it would be hard not to.
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    Unintentional and unavoidable investment isn't the same thing though as the kind of investment targeted by BDS, is it?
  11. T.R

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    Fixed, you ignorant,tough keyboard commando you.

    Tell me, have you ever been in a real fist fight ? And I'm not talking about the make believe ones you have while playing games in your mother's basement.
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  12. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Calling out the perception of him flexing with some actual flexing.
    Good job.
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  13. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    How many Nazis have you punched today, tough guy?
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  14. Dr. Krieg

    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    How many have you punched, fuckface? Also GO NAVY WE BEt army IVE BEEN DRINKING RUM WHOORS
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  15. 14thDoctor

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    1. Remind me how the Holocaust was eventually stopped? Was it a letter writing campaign, or what? :borg:

    2. Are you suggesting Israel should be expected to respond to it's enemies with only non-violent action and talk? That sounds like the sort of argument that's often regarded as anti-Semitism itself. :chris:
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  16. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I’m not the saying it’s okay to walk up to someone you disagree with and punch them.
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  17. Dr. Krieg

    Dr. Krieg Stay at Home Astronaut. Administrator Overlord

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    What? Are you drunk, too?
  18. 14thDoctor

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    Ah, so the Holocaust was just a "disagreement." Got it. :brood:
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  19. tafkats

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    Well, sure. And you gotta respect both sides. Teach the controversy. Anything else would be uncivil.
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  20. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Remind me what Holocaust is happening right now in the United States.
    You're really all over the place. I start a thread about a democrat calling out other democrats for anti-semitism and you pop in asking about a previous thread where you and a couple other morons were advocating punching Nazis. Do you even have the brain capacity to understand the article or do you lack reading skills? And you still haven't answered my previous question. Have you ever been in a real fist fight? Do you yourself punch Nazis? Yes or no?
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  21. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Are you on drugs? This is like a repeat of the DS9 "Babel" episode.
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  22. 14thDoctor

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    It seems fairly clear from this thread that your alleged concerns about anti-Semitism are nothing more than an excuse to smear your political opponents. :shrug:

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  23. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    We’re not talking about the holocaust, do try and keep up.
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  24. 14thDoctor

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    While making sure to reference my dead mother, no less. He's a classy guy. :yes:
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  25. T.R

    T.R Don't Care

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    Never said I was concerned about anything you idiot. I posted an article which you clearly didn't bother reading.

    :lmao::lmao::lmao:

    At this point I'm just going to have to assume that you are a 12 year old basement dweller who lacks the ability to read and understand an article above a 6th grade level. Have a nice day moron.
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  26. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I have to give the kid this one.
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  27. T.R

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    Seriously, it's like trying to talk to a whiny child with that idiot. He's learned a big word and can't stop talking about it.
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  28. 14thDoctor

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    Ah, so you don't actually have a problem with anti-Semitism. Not a concern of yours at all.

    Wow.


    That "don't punch Nazis" stance of yours makes a lot more sense in retrospect. :async:
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  29. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    This is why in reality punching a nazi just for being a nazi is fail.
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  30. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    He has got you there.

    It is not often the boy wins, but when he does we have to recognize it because it means someone is being a dumbfuck.

    Agaian a thousand billion curses on your nether region Mr Doctor for making the boy right and putting me with @T.R
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