Corona virus, what's different for you.

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  1. TheLonelySquire

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    Most of the Chinese restaurants in the area have closed for the time being. I think that they could have stayed open and just had delivery. Most are family owned and all 14 are exposed to each other anyway. Where the fuck am I going to get my egg rolls now?
     
  2. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    you can’t get it delivered to your house via an app?
     
  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    These restaurant owners are concerned with a different kind of health risk: https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...e-racism-targeting-asians-new-research-shows/
     
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  4. TheLonelySquire

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    Lol, wait... you PAY for the Washington ComPost? Funny stuff right there.
     
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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    No. I don't read it that often, and there are, I think, 10 free articles per month.

    Do you still buy print newspapers and/or magazines?
     
  6. Zombie

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    Banks are not closed in Florida. Just use the drive through.

    Also plenty of Chinese restaurants are open here. Sure you can probably find a few that are closed but most are open.
     
  7. TheLonelySquire

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    I do not.
     
  8. Tererune

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    The Bank is closed. They are locked up. There is no one operating the drive through. That is Bank of America. Look around you fucking twat and you will find most places are closed. Unless you are lying about where you are which may be the case.
     
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    Banks in South Florida, with drive through, are open normal banking hours.

    That includes Bank of America.
     
  10. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    At first my wife poo-pooed my suggestion that she sew up a mask for herself for shopping. Didn't want to wear one, thought it was overreacting, yaddayadda. Then after I put the idea in her head she realized I was right to be as careful as possible, and she made a couple the next day, including some for the neighbors. Now 2 weeks later, she decided she wants more variety, so she made 5 more with different materials. :lol:
     
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    Hair cut by a back alley barber.
     
  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    This is for Mary, not you.

    :mrsa:
     
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  13. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Unless you handle the cash for a business it baffles me that Americans visit banks as much as you seem to.
     
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  14. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    This is different, don't usually see these guys all the way in the CBD (this is a couple of hundred meters from where I work)

     
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  15. Order2Chaos

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    Epidemiologically, this is a fine idea. Economically, pretty much impossible, due to the length of infectiousness and resources used per hospitalization. It would take years to get though the population.
     
  16. Soma

    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    Funny how they neglect to mention that it primarily blacks attacking Asians in the US...
     
  17. Tererune

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    That is given the current numbers which are admittedly wrong. It also goes under the illusion we can save everyone who might be hospitalized. I would consider the piling up of bodies from the hospitals to be a sign that not everyone who needs hospitalization is making it because they get hospitalized.

    There is a reality that we are very wrong about the fatality rate of this sickness. That is because only the really sick and some choice healthy people are getting tested for COVID while it is running through society. We are currently avoiding real tests on who has acquired immunity from getting ill. This means that your numbers are really off on the side of fatality and need for hospitalization. Any number you have working on that is full of shit, and therefor your conclusions it would take years is a complete load of shit.

    I am not saying that the numbers on my argument are perfect, but due to the way the numbers we have gathered are working to bias towards higher fatality and hospitalization rates, along with ignoring any data on present immunity levels, mine are a whole lot more in range of the current situation than the fearmongering bullshit the media and medical communities are giving us because of extremely biased and incomplete testing.
     
  18. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    @Tererun what medical and/or statistics type qualifications do you have that you think you have come across some insight that hasn't occurred to the experts?

    Yes, we can't know about all the cases out there due to not everyone being tested all the time. However the big problem with the idea that this spread widely and asymptomatically is that we have evidence of clusters where infection is known of and the symptoms manifest in too many people. For your theory to be correct would require some statistical anomaly whereby the known cases of transmission also happened to then show the most illness.

    As more testing comes online we'll probably find lots of cases, however it's extremely unlikely to be the orders of magnitude more like you speculate.
     
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  19. Tererune

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    I am not on the payroll of big pharma, nor do I have large investments in them. There are motivations for profit in our very capitalistic society. We see time and again money drives medicine, especially in the US. It is not profitable to ask who has gotten acquired immunity. It is a natural process that does not involve any intervention of medicine for most of us.

    what does not make money is the idea our bodies will handle this compared to take a medication. In reality the very vaccine that would be created to immunize us from the virus relies on our body acting naturally, and it does not do shit if we have the virus. This is not an antibiotic which helps to fight invading bacteria. A vaccine relies entirely on our body to do it's thing. They will pitch this like an antibiotic because that sells.

    Yes, I am ignoring things like antibody therapies and anti-viral drugs which are actual treatments.
    Not true. You are not understanding something. I am not exactly sure what you are implying.

    There is a negative bias towards antibody testing by the developers of a vaccine. This is because if you already have the anti-bodies the vaccine is worthless to you at that moment. Over time you may need to get the vaccine again if your body does not retain immunity like it does for MMR. That is not good enough for the vaccine makers because they want everyone to buy the moment it comes out. That is money for them. Whether they get paid for the doses by the consumer, insurance, or the government does not matter. The more people who buy it the more money they make.

    If by the time the vaccine comes out there are 30 percent or more people that have the acquired immunity that is a huge chunk of their target numbers. They do not want the real fatality numbers known, nor do they want people to know they have caught it and are immune because that lowers sales. The reality is that the mortality rate and large number of less severe cases means most of us don't need a thing to deal with this. Ok, we need what we normally need when dealing with a virus. We need some time off, rest, and time to be sick and recover.

    It is far more profitable to sell a vaccine to everyone than it is to sell a vaccine to those who are in the danger zones and those who want it anyway.
     
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    I want it to be known I am not arguing against the creation of the vaccine, or that being the problem. It is the capitalism that is the problem in this case. A non-biased experiment should be created for who has the anti-bodies. The fact that no one is demanding it or asking about it anywhere should be frightening. Who is immune to this becomes the issue of the future. It is not who is infected by it. We need to know who is immune, how long it lasts, and who is in danger of catching this.

    This is an area where faux news should be the leaders in asking if they truly cared about getting the economy going again and owning the libs. This is because that evidence would be the evidence that wins the argument of we are safe to open up again when that time comes. They are not asking those questions. For that matter I am hugely disappointed in TYT as they are not asking that question either. If we have huge numbers of people who still do not have immunity that means we cannot open up yet because that would create a rush on the hospitals.

    Everyone is focused on who has it presently. That is good to know but it has to come along with who has immunity. On it's own it is just a distraction argument because those numbers do not tell you about the progress of the virus. We know one thing. When it is about making money for the pharma companies we cannot trust our openly biased government and media to properly research information that may lead to loss of profits. We see it bright and clear in the Marijuana industry. That weed is dangerous to the profits of pharmaceuticals because it is natural, works, and directly competes with so many of their products. Your body's immune system is the same thing. It fixes you for free, and doctors are really just assisting it to do what it does most of the time.
     
  21. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Folks up the street had a baby, so they invited the whole family over to see it. The family lined both sides of the street with their parked cars and stayed by the cars while the new parents brought the baby out on the lawn and showed it off. Good way to handle it. But the side effects for those of us trying to take an afternoon walk past them were difficult, since this happened at the top of a blind hill. We had to walk up the center of the road, hoping we didn't get run over. Cars coming either way had to slow and crawl thru the narrow gap between parked cars.

    There are a lot of blind hills around here actually. The other day on our walk we encountered a tree service truck k-turning and backing into a property at the top of one. Cars had to stop coming each way, 'cause they couldn't see over the hill to go around. One of the tree guys did traffic cop duty and held everybody up. The road was narrow and the truck couldn't get all the way out of it. My wife and I had to take a seat on someone's retaining wall and wait for the whole thing to be over.
     
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    Did they hold the baby up in the air and play the opening to the lion king? That would have been how I would show off my baby to the neighborhood if they all came out to see.
     
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  23. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Actually, that would have been awesome. Their lawn is 4 feet above street level over a retaining wall. :lol:
     
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    Some visit just to check balances because they don't have a computer, or smart phone AND refuse to use an ATM.
     
  25. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    94 obituaries in our weekly county paper. :(
     
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    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I got an auto reminder that I have a dentist check-up May 5. I called the office to say let's forget it for a while. I got a recording saying they'll be closed until further notice due to the virus.
    This affirms my belief that at some point all of humanity will have died, and the computer-generated reminders and spam will continue on for eons.
     
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    yes my wife had her appointment cancelled too, and the office is closed indefinitely. :(
     
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    The queues at the company canteen are a lot shorter.
    [​IMG]
     
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Got my 401K statement - went from 58K to 56K. :( And this was before coronapocalypse got rolling steady. I dread my next quarterly statement! :shep: Not a big deal because I already have the military retirement, but for the civilians where I work....it's really something to be concerned about!
     
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    where in ireland?
    I may know someone who knows someone if you give me a few days.
     
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