Paladin: the Rape Grandfather

Yep.

Pretty sure that came up in the Lewinsky trial at some point.

Have you ever initiated sexual contact without an explicit consent? Without asking for consent?

Consensual.

Consensual.

"He nagged me until I gave in" means "I eventually consented."

Sorry to break it to you.

The women who joe touches and sticks his fingers in flip a coin and says I want this old creep to sniff me and run his greasy fingers up my thigh because I am doing my job. They are molested and then forced into silence by his power and his network of political men and women who will kill their career and smear their reputation across the country and world for telling him no. If they flipped a coin and then said yes to him, then that is their values and I have no problem with that. Reade went into work. She went to do her job, and he put his fingers in her with no coin toss. Then she complained and was threatened so much that she quit, went home, and cried to her mom wondering what to do because not only was she fingered, but she was also being destroyed by his network of political trash in the DNC. Years later, those same people are smearing her for having the nerve to say what happened to her. This was not her shutting him up by saying yes. This is her being publically humiliated by a person who openly molests women in public and then those women get told to STFU because that is just touchy feely rapey old uncle joe, and if you like your job being paid less than every other man you better just smile and look pretty when he gets to sniff and molest you.

People make bad choices they regret about sex. None of the women joe molests have a choice when he is chosing from the pool of political profesionals him and the DNC can silence and destroy. This is in no way letting trump off the hook for his rapes, but Jpoe is not any better because he is a democrat and gives lip service to a woman's right to tell him to keep his hands off of her. Could you imagine what the response would be for joe or trump if men were coming forward saying they grabbed them by the dick when they did not want to? Of course @Paladin wants the old power structure back. Back in the day he could have laid his hands on the women he worked with and he would have been considered a powerful ladies man. He is sad those days are over, and he would love to MAGA so he could sniff and touch a woman without permission and then threaten them and destroy them for not being nice to him in return.

The fact that Paladin even denies that his MAGA excuse trail is anything other than his tears because he might face consequences for having a woman hear his cat calls and muted comments about how hot she is laughable. It is just a technicality his quote was hedged enough to look innocent. It is something men learn when women are around is to code word their shit, and make plausible deniability part of their routine. His dislike for joe is that Joe still gets away with it because the DNC is still operating in the past when it comes to people like creepy joe. Remember when they made progressive stewart smalley resign for barely anything? Remember when they turned Bernie sanders into a rapey old pervet because Warren made up shit about him? Even if Bernie said the worst of the accusations of Warren it is not even close to what Warren is endorsing with Biden. I am even ashamed of Bernie for endorsing Biden. Endorsing Rapey Joe is far worse than telling Warren trump will use her vagina to destroy her if she can.

Oh, just admit you purposefully hedged your original comment because you were afraid to let your true anger show. You are jelly as fuck over joe and how the dems allow his molestation to continue while you would get fired by Human resources over your lunch break if you made a mistake and a woman heard you at work. Yes, your comment was technically innocent. You are used to hedging your comments because you know what zero tolerance and lawsuits mean for a person who is not powerful and rich enough to make the woman out to be a slut and a problem child.

You love trump because you want the old Mad Men days back.

Didn't hedge anything and am not angry.

Not innocent. Correct. Factual. Self-evident.

Uh, so should the woman's claims against Biden be heard and investigated?

Not true! I wasn't around in the Mad Men days.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/po...nald-trump-recapped?__twitter_impression=true

Once, when I was very young, and it's wrong and shameful. Never as an adult.

Tererun- Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh-blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah-blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh.....

*Paladin's rape-grandkids jump all over Tererun, one of them bites a chunk out of her face like a bloody apple*

Tererun- Skraaaaahhh!!!!!

Paladin- (Monster laugh) Roohhh-hoh-hoh-hoh-hohhh!!!!!!

Horror movie ending makes me happy.

Dude... :O

maybe in the 80s... but even then, it wasn't really cool.

now? serious creep factor.

I mean, "nagging" is forcing the issue, right?

If the implication of "force" comes into your courtship... you are really doing it wrong.

Surrender isn't consent.

Maybe surrender is just playing hard to get.

Anyway, you both are reading waaay more into what I'm writing than what I'm writing.

Paladin's bumper sticker:

Ask Me About My Cannibalistic Rape Grandchildren

So, you got explicit permission for every touch?

I get explicit consent, yes, and give it, too. That this is strange to you is frightening, but not surprising.

Really? You ask "May I put my hand on your..." every time? And you get an affirmative response before proceeding?

I think you're not getting the word explicit.

Hell, I wouldn't even send dick pics unless my girlfriend explicitly says she wouldn't mind.

As for whether Biden should be investigated, yes and I think he should be tossed and someone who is not touchy feely put in. It is not just about her. Any man who puts his hands on a woman in the way he does in a professional environment when in a position of power should be gone. I do not even give a fuck bout the fingering, though that is incredibly gross and disgusting. This is not a recent thing either as he has had this covered up for him forever by the DNC. I am even pissed and the RNC who should have been the people to rip that man to shreds for his behavior long before this. This is just an example of how the party of family values never had family values when it comes to molesting women because they never even saw it as a problem. To think my mother or sister probably went through uncomfortable touching like that at the hands of some untouchable boss makes me want to cut that man's balls off. I sure as fuck do not want my neice to have to feel that she needs to suck it up and deal with it if it ever happens to her. Because all she would need to do is say the name and I would go to jail happy.

It is disgusting and demeaning in ways you cannot empathise with, but I somewhat can. The fact that women are raised to think that is their lot in life because they were born women is holy shit disgusting and probably one of the reasons they cry more than men do. But I know your mysogenist ways, and I have been around enough offices and men spaces to know what is said. I know you have degraded women "by the water cooler." even in this day and age. It is not because you are you that I know this. It is because it is everywhere and everyone is complicit in some way to it. Even us woke people. It runs so deep in society we train our little girls to play into it and use it. That is fucking creepy.

I wouldn't do that unless she explicitly requests them.

You are just like trump. Give you enough rope and you hang yourself. Your original comment was not that bad, but you just made the title right there.

Nicely played mister @Fisherman's Worf . You got creepy old paladin to bite and become mr rapey. I like that. I give you a billion troll points for this SPNAK!

Nah, they're repeating back exactly what you wrote.

I have been there before and in public, and have had no problem with getting explicit consent. That is because the girls were willing. That was part of the game and excitement of making a girl wet in good company with no one knowing, or at least only a few people in on it. At any time during those actions they person doing the fingering can be pushed away when I do it. It is gentle and comes with nods and her trying to be quiet as she enjoys the fun. It certainly does not involve her telling her mother that she was uncomfortable about it and it was wrong. It certainly does not involve her risking her career over it or telling people to make it stop.

So take it from the slut who has sullied a number of booths at a restaurant. You can do it in a consensual manner.

No, they're not.

My statement is not controversial. Acts of a sexual nature can be assault if they occur without the consent of one of the parties. But if there is consent, those same acts are not assault.

Legally, consent, unless explicitly given, can only be inferred by circumstances. It's implicit in the context, by people's actions, responses, or statements.

I think the crew who defends @Paladin got sucked into a hole with him. This is what you get when you ignore a person's moral compass so you can talk politely. Paladin is often polite and participates in discussions in a decent way, but he is a racist sexist ass. I do not have to kiss that shit.

Also, It is very mysogenistic of you to be defending what we know is a sexist. What does that make you look like mr. dirty old christian man? Maybeb you should be getting cozy with @TheLonelySquire and not old lady @garamet . Maybe you all are part of a big old group of christian sexists.

Good god, that is nasty.

Dont worry, she's totally fine with them......

What does crying to your mom about your big boss putting his fingers into you infer about the situation?

No, it's you who clearly doesn't understand what consent is, which is why you think you can fog the issue.

Here's the issue:

That's a man describing the significance of being a star as no longer having to wait for consent.

Oh my, you just crushed the fuck out of his bullshit with that one. That is how you beat them all the fuck up.

No but it was true then, too. It is in fact true of a lot of the so-called "debate" on Wordforge. I just decided that it was high time someone pointed it out and formulated it explicitely.

It is true so often that I sincerely do not know which side you were taking in this thread, if any, by posting that. The OP points out how @Paladin violently distorts the the idea of consent and the criticism of Trump that employs it. Was that what you were thinking of?