Years ago he got in a huff when it was pointed out that the things he was saying about gay people were just as damaging as the things the WBC do, just that he did it with a smile on his face.
I think the phrase "based in science" should be better construed as "based on common sense, as influenced by a lay understanding of how science works." There is not time to conduct a full and strict scientific study as to every aspect of how this particular virus is transmitted and its effects. However, we have enough empirical evidence both at home and abroad as to what has worked in stopping the spread of this disease and similar diseases and we can and should apply that to policy on this one. I can't speak to the VA policy as to bars, but it seems to me to make sense to have last call earlier so as to discourage people staying later. As to NY, I don't know how much faith we can have in contract tracing at this point, honestly, beause I don't think that any place in the U.S. has devoted the resources to it that it can have 100 percent faith in it. But more to the point, there is some amount of circularity -- the percentage of cases occurring from bars and restaurants is obviously lowered in part by bars and restaurants having restricted hours and methods of operation. If there were more indoor dining allowed, there would be more cases springing forth from indoor dining. If bars and restaurants were allowed to open with no restrictions, there would be the tremendous potential for cases to spread. In some other setting, it might arguably be fine to let the business owners and patrons take those risks voluntarily. The trouble is with a disease like that, they are potentially imposing that risk on numerous people who are not signing up for it. Common sense says that if large amounts of people gather in a confined space over long periods of time, there is going to be a corresponding increased risk of infection. Tented areas are better than conventional "indoors" because there is more ventilation and thus a smaller chance of the virus spreading than if there is not ventilation.
There is no "correct" solution to this problem. Try to cover every possible case in a constitution and you will fail, introduce loopholes for legislators to exploit and also likely prevent necessary things from happening. Go too vague and that vagueness will be exploited in non-essential times.
Conservatives had no problem arguing that the Constitution shouldn't be a death pact during the Bush years, but that was for fun stuff like torture and wiretapping.
because you preface (so very many) posts with shit like: I mean, I know it was a bunch of screaming libruls that made up the temperance movement. And everything from books to Beatles records that've been burnt in the name of progressive causes...
whereas capitalism in it's evolutions since the treaty of tordesillas has murdered several hundreds of millions... leave the goal posts where they started. also, not sure what maoist/stalinist style communism has to do with ANY position I've ever advocated? so there's another strawman...
Yeah, except no. No right recognized in the constitutions has been found to be without exception and caveat.Including this one.
Really? Ok. You said you wanted science to work like your brain works, rather than like reality works, and you then specifically embraced people breaking local laws such that more people will die of the virus. That's why that post deserves the rep it's getting.
Oh yeah that's right, it wasn't true communism. If we just keep trying, we'll get it right eventually. Except everyone will be dead though.
That's why communism is still around and embraced by people who really should know better - "It will work if the right people are in charge." Never mind that there are no "right people" . . .
Welcome to my side, brother. No government can be trusted. No form yet devised is free of the tendency to turn autocratic and totalitarian.
Not at all. I don't mythologize the Founders, and I'm not so dogmatic as to think they'd welcome death into their communities. Most of them weren't fools. But we have a lot of fools in the US that scream constantly about their rights without giving any shit at all about their responsibilities. Washington had smallpox in Barbados as a teenager. During the American Revolution, he ordered quarantines in the continental army to ensure that it didn't destroy the ability of the army to fight. It was well known that disease was the biggest killer on the battlefield, not enemy weapons. He also ordered smallpox exposed Bostonians expelled from US camps - even the civilians. No civilians from Boston were allowed to approach during an outbreak in 1776. The Founders made tons of mistakes, but they weren't idiots, and they clearly had a different outlook on the powers of the government as the 'originalists' do now. For example, mandating people buy insurance, and mandating people buy guns, blankets and clothes in case they were needed for the militia.
Capitalism in some form and within varying limits works quite well, and can be adapted to pretty much any existing political structure. Communism in some form soon expands into a monster and becomes the political structure that destroys anything inhibiting it's soul draining, oppressive, exponential growth. Just my 2 cents! Oh wait it's not mine, it's everybody's 2 cents.
if capitalism works so damned well, then how come so many starving people in resource rich countries? and once again, nobody is arguing for soviet "communism". Just against the type of "capitalism" that allows for individuals to become the economy. If you play monopoly and the person who is banker takes $2000 for passing Go, you call them out as cheaters, non?
yes, but no tribes of humans had 328,000,000 members either. What works on a tiny scale doesn't translate too well to a much larger scale. But you brought up a great point relates to a similar point that I have posited for years: the evolution of homo sapiens is a long, incredible, miraculous journey that sadly started down a dangerous path when we discovered & implemented......wait for it....large scale agriculture. This of course led to writing, money, stationary versus mobile societies, large population centers, standing armies to protect their resources, class struggles, etc etc etc. Agriculture was a double edged sword. It was a dream come true that turned out to be a nightmare. Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution eventually leading to small but sustainable groups of hunter gatherers then somebody realized that certain plant seeds could be relied upon to produce year after year in a dependable pattern and POW! So began the decline. It's all in the book Guns, Germs and Steel and of course many other books cover similar ground, but I recommend it to everyone if only to put all the craziness of our modern world in perspective. https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies-ebook/dp/B06X1CT33R
Exactly. And, capitalism is now beyond it's expiration date. So, instead of acting a fool and digging in your heals, expand your mind and TRY to think of another form of economic system that might work with 8 billion people.
Yeah, no, not mine. Exponential growth is the hallmark of capitalism, not communism: monopolies, debt, centralised power, all driven by the need for an endless positive feedback loop.
Yeah, bullshit. You side with your government against your people: https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/repealing-the-patriot-act.120905/#post-3300509
"commerce" isn't by definition "capitalism". I'd even go so far as to say the two at some point become incompatable if massive amounts of wealth are concentrated in very few hands, leading to economic and societal instability.
Individuals are the economy. Everyone making their own decisions about how to earn a living and what to do with the proceeds forms the economy.
In that one narrow specific case, yes. Because Snowden committed espionage. In general, I find the Patriot Act to be a repugnant government overreach and a theatrical response to 9-11. Not to mention unconstitutional.
for the 106 753rd time, we're talking specifically about the "nesting doll yacht rich", not us poor schlubs making between 12 and 300K/year. The CEOs who take home more by January 2nd than most people will in a year. They're hardly the economy, despite the ability to steer it.
For you. In accordance with his oath. Against criminals in your government who were conspiring against you.
