Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    A Romulan beheaded another Rumulan in front of Picard and he barely batted an eye. Icheb got his eye ripped out and was murdered. Maddox was straight murdered and again Picard barely bats an eye. Seven straight up murders that Romulan bitch with a little bit of KirkFu. Soji comes within seconds of killing everyone and is instantly right back to being part of the crew. Seven and Miss "fancy chateau" are suddenly lesbians. All of that just screams Star Trek, don't it?
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    Hey come to think of it, wouldn't the Mintakans have developed warp travel by then? It could have been interesting revisiting them to see how The Picard legend developed.
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    Actually now that I think about it, being assigned to a boring low stress job on a prestigious ship far away from the Cardassian border was almost certainly a conscious choice by Starfleet. Let him work through his PTSD in comfort.
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    Maybe he wanted to be on the Enterprise.
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    You probably don't go from the bronze age to warp travel in 900 years. :nono:
    Riker vaporized Yuta in front of Picard and he barely batted an eye. Worf decapitated Duras and received a stern lecture from Picard. Data joined forces with Lore and the Borg, and Picard got over it by the end of the episode. Worf was suddenly interested in a frail (half)human female. Picard and Riker phasered Remmick until he literally exploded.

    So... yeah. :shrug:
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    In the time when everything had to be wrapped up by the end of the episode. Mintakans are not humans. They could have a leap in technology that we didn’t have. Maybe they didn’t have the equivalent of the Roman Empire collapse or the Library of Alexandria burn down.
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    What part of "the trial never ends" do you not understand?
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    Or how Picard "won" each trial by solving mysteries and/or puzzles, not really by proving how enlightened humanity/the federation was. :async:

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    You’re not wrong, I’m just suspect if they’ll actually go there.
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    He got pretty damn mad at the kid IIRC. At least as mad as he got at Worf when he killed Duras.

    Any VOY ep with Vidiians. Natch.

    Didn't know it WAS murder until the murderer had been identified because she tried to kill herself. Then has the more immediate issue of preventing Soji taking bloody vengeance.

    Ask Kruge about pissing off Starfleet officers. or Kivas Fajo (though Data was beamed out before he could do the deed).

    Any early Seven ep on VOY.

    More likely both bi. Though apart from a kid (and there are many more options for THAT) in the 24th Century, we have no indication of Raffi's preferences until that very scene. She's not eyeballing Rios. As for Seven, there was always an undercurrent with Janeway and the Borg Queen.

    Absolutely.
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    Your arguments are invalid, as usual.

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    Did you actually watch Picard? Or just merely consume it? Nothing invalid about the latter, Netflix has built an entire business model on it, but these seem to miss the fact that things have changed since NEM, plus as @matthunter points out these aren't out of character for Trek writing.

    As for Jurati killing Maddox, she was under undue influence. Contrast with Kira who murdered a fellow Bajoran because he caught her trying to get a list of collaborators, IIRC.
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    Leaps in technology require a platform to make that leap from, and many of those platforms are usually not what you expect and are dependent on who is using them (e.g. the stirrup)
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    I’ll repeat myself, poor decisions from the writers in the past doesn’t excuse poor decisions from the writers in the present or the future.
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    And it never helps your case.
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    I know this sounds completely crazy, but I wish people could realize Star Trek is just a TV show. It's not a religion, it's not a guide for life. It's just entertainment. Granted, some installments are more entertaining than others.
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    Nice re-creation of Discovery season 3.
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    They do not, but frequently you argue that X or Y isn't "proper" Star Trek despite reams of evidence to the contrary.

    If you want argue a plot or event is badly written, go for it, but the moment you make the "like, that's really Star Trek innit?" you hole your own argument below the waterline.
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    Then it’s not what at Star Trek is meant to represent and it doesn’t have the same feeling that old Trek had. The new teaser does peak my interest though.
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    And what it's really meant to represent, is women and darkies having pretend diversity, but not getting TOO uppity!
    :discuss: :hurr:
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    A caper!
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    Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, now I'm going to have to throw that movie on tonight.
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    Bad writing? Spock's Brain would disagree.

    You've two entirely different things, bad writing and what Trek represents to you.

    Don't mix the two up, and you don't get to project the latter out of the confines of your brain on to the world at large.

    And the "same old feeling" doesn't cut it either - TNG feels nothing like TOS, DS9 little like TNG, and nor should they expect to be - TOS was envisioned to be a Play of the Week type show, the others as being members of a franchise.

    If you want the same old, same old then go watch re-runs. If you don't like a series, don't watch it.

    Whilst there are some definite themes core to Star Trek - diversity, acceptance, seeking the similarities over the differences - there has never been some overarching representative view or style. So, just because something isn't your vision of Trek doesn't invalidate for others.
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  28. Steal Your Face

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    Did Avery Brooks and Kate Mulgrew get pretend representation, because I seem to remember them starring in their own shows. I also seem to remember Ben Sisko getting quite uppity with Starfleet several times. I also seem to remember Janeway's middle name being uppity. And I love 90% of DS9 and Voy is 50/50.
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    *Whispers in ear*
    The smileys should have tipped you off I was being ironic to mock you.
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    As for liking DS9 and VOY for their representation, but not Discovery...well...cuz you're listening to fuckin' HateTube.

    "But the Youtubers like DS9!!!".

    No they don't, they're fucking liars.
    They have to let the old shows in under seniority, because they can't rewrite the past.
    Like how racist Fox News fucks have to pretend to like Martin Luther King.
    If they'd been around for TOS to VOY, they'd be tearing those down.
    Hell, send 'em back to the 30's, they'd be slamming Wonder Woman.
    Fashys gotta fash.
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