Jimmy Carter isn't a wimp

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  1. We Are Borg

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    Cool story bro, but it has nothing to do with my point. :garamet:
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    IIRC the “wimp” moniker was most famously applied to George H.W. Bush by one of his campaign rivals during the 1988 Republican primary. Which was absurd considering the record of his WWII service. :marathon:
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    If they're "SJWs".
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    No, Jimmy was the guy who had to give up his peanut farm to become president. A common mixup, because peanut sounds a lot like nuclear.

    If only he had a hotel chain, frozen steaks, and clothing brand, then he wouldn't have had to give those up.
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    My comment seems to have been misinterpreted, so let me rephrase.

    I agree that Carter is a man of strong character and courage. The OP is just one example. And my point is that his relatively unsuccessful presidency should not dissuade people of this truth.
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    He had two major accomplishments: The Egypt/Israel peace treaty and the Panama Canal Treaty. He also normalized relations with China. There are a lot of things that he tried to do that didn't get done, but compare that to Fearless Leader, who can brag about "Operation Warp Speed" with some justification, but then again the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine wasn't part of that. Carter's presidency was a disappointment and hardly among the greatest, but I think the cliche that he was a "lousy president, but a great ex-president" while not necessarily wrong, is an oversimplification.
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    Why compare Carter to Trump? I'm a huge fan of Carter, but he wasn't the greatest of presidents foreign policy wise. Just because we had a Trump doesn't mean we can't recognize other president's shortcomings.
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    does trump knoow how to spell nuclear
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    If Carter’s foreign policy was a failure (or wasn’t the greatest), then it reflects more on the American people than Carter himself. Carter’s intention was to be opposite of Nixon’s. Carter believed we should behave with the highest moral principles when dealing with other nations.

    If Americans consider that a failure, then it’s Americans who fail.
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    He just did what Anthony Fauci told him to do.
    We should trust the experts, right?
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    You should probably go fuck yourself. :yes:
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    Or Southern Democrats torpedoing Douglas to get Lincoln elected!
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    That's a fair point. I could have also used GHWB, who's most notable accomplishment (if you see it that way) was his handling of the First Gulf War. His big domestic accomplishment was raising taxes despite his "read my lips" pledge. W's big accomplishment? He helped stem the spread of AIDS in Africa and Medicare Part D. Fiscally, his tax cuts were an absolute disaster and of course the Iraq War...well.... Despite his seriousness, competence and good intentions, Obama's big legacy will be Obamacare and that's pretty much it. My point, which I obviously didn't make clear enough (that's on me) was that Carter's record stacks up fairly well when compared with a lot of presidents when it comes to Big Accomplishments. Again, let me make it clear: I will not argue that Carter was a great president. I will say again that saying he was a lousy president, but our "greatest" ex-president is an oversimplification and somewhat patronizing.
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    Well in this thread we have at least one person who was overjoyed with Trump and wanted him reelected calling Carter terrible and a wimp.
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    Is there ANYTHING out of your yap I wouldn't hear on Fox?
    Anything?
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    All sorts of things, you just aren't paying attention.
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    I don't think Carter was terrible nor a wimp. Not trying to channel Dayton, but while Operation Eagle Claw was an abject failure, it was a gutsy call IMHO.
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    Yeah. A couple of good things did come out of it. The failure drove home the need for unified military operations, instead of letting the brass of each respective service build their own silos. Also the survivors passed the hat at the site of the crash and used the money to help send the kids of the ones who didn't make it to college. Out of that grew the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, which I briefly worked for. If you feel like the donating to a military charity, they've earned the top rating from Charity Navigator for many years in a row.
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    Not in the OSHA thread you fucking aren't.
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    Who fucking cares? I'm sure a lot of the shit that comes out of your mouth I could probably hear from Rachel Maddow's mouth.
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    The GOP motto since they literally actually abandoned a platform.