OSHA Vaccine Mandate

My body, my choice.

https://www.themedicportal.com/application-guide/medical-school-interview/medical-ethics/

Not true. No one knows how to get a DUI as well as you.

Tell you what, take 12 to 16 years of medical school and biological engineering and get back to us.

Spreading covid chooses for others.
Thanks for confirming for the jillionth time that the conservative version of "liberty" is just homicidal solipsism.

No. I'd have no problem with a person with a contagious disease being barred from unprotected contact with the public for the duration of their illness.

But the argument against those unvaccinated against Covid fails because (1) being unvaccinated is not having a contagious illness and (2) being unvaccinated is little threat to the vaccinated.

The "logic" of the main ruling is quite tortured. By that "logic" OSHA shouldn't need to be able require guardrails at workplaces, because falling is a hazard at home as well. But since it supports his agenda Paladin is...wait for it...overjoyed.

To use your analogy, affirming the mandate would be like letting OSHA tell you what you needed to have in your home and permitting them to throw you out for noncompliance.

OSHA has nothing to do with you at home. Only in work spaces. Occupational Safety and Health Administration

*point of the analogy sails over Jenee's head*

Yes, exactly.

But since they know about safety, why don't we give them authority over your home, too?

I'm done. Anyone else want to try getting under his tinfoil hat?

What? Are you saying safety isn't important?

Are you saying apples are oranges?

Except it doesn't, because the concurrence isn't the controlling opinion.

You don't have to be tested to be at home, and they didn't leave the testing and masking part of the mandate in place either.

You've officially entered the "because FOX News said so" era of supreme court rulings. Thanks, Obama!

I think they just thought it was too broad. Were there exceptions for people who work from home? Truckers? Companies that technically are part of a larger corporation, but don't actually have 100 employees? What about singers who work for a studio, but are solo artists? Should I go on?

The entire fucking fracking industry could not get into that dense rock.

Apparently, my sarcasm is not coming through.

No, you don't have to be tested to be at home. But if safety of society is paramount, why shouldn't OSHA be able to demand this? After all, what employees do in their off time can affect workplace safety...

Sarcasm. Yea. Ok.

If I come into work high jobs can drug test me for what I was doing on my free time. Is that what you are talking about? Just because you caught COVID on your free time does not mean you cannot infect people at work.

Of course, no regulations make it to OSHA without first killing customers and workers to the point it is so obvious we need to do something.

Again OSHA are the regulations you need to apply to the working environment. You are only subject to them if you go to work, and as we all know according to you no one actually has to work. It is an at will activity you do not have to do. So if you don't like the testing then man the fuck up and quit you snowflake.

Oh wait, that would be using your own rhetoric against you.

Bullshit. That level of "too broad" would strike down, eg. all gravitational hazard-related regulations as well. Would strike down air quality regulations especially eg carbon monoxide and common carcinogen exposure.

Literally exempted in the regulation: remote workers, solo workers, and exclusively outdoor workers (the last was empirically not broad enough, but that's not the reasoning in the opinion), medical and religious exceptions.

The size requirement is about compromise on the compliance burden. The larger corporation can pay the compliance cost.

Solo artists don't work solo. They're still in the studio with producers, sound engineers, etc. And once again, no one is mandated to be vaccinated, only vaccinated or tested weekly.

You're right. I was totally serious about OSHA regulating your home life even though I was against them regulating your work life.

But why shouldn't they regulate your home life? If you're an employee, anything you do in your off hours could affect the safety of your workplace.

Is there any principle you would have for limiting this regulation?

The only reason for what you said would be if you got confused as to the topic and, reading FF’s posts you thought this thread might be about government over reach.

You’re not going to be able to play this off. You screwed up. Just let it go. No one cares.

What am I trying to "play off?"

I've asked why OSHA shouldn't have some say in what you do at home since it affects workplace safety. And...?

If OSHA decides to, say, regulate your alcohol consumption or fat intake in the name of a healthier workplace, how can you object?

Jefferson Davis agrees!
George Wallace agrees!
Bull Connor agrees!

Do we hafta let Indiana into the club?

How about just the counties I have to drive through to get to Chicago?

Christ on a motherfucking crutch.

If I fall down and break my leg because I decided to remove the banister from my staircase, it will affect the health of the woman whose desk is six feet from mine in no way whatsoever.

If I bring a contagious disease to work because I'm a moron who thinks vaccines are made out of 5G chips and dead babies, not so much.

George Washington agrees!
James Madison agrees!
Thomas Jefferson agrees!