OSHA Vaccine Mandate

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  1. Order2Chaos

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    Good news, companies: no need to worry about carbon monoxide emissions, cause they're a universal experience! OSHA can't control something that's universal! It's not like COVID is airborne either...
  2. Steal Your Face

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    You do realize that companies can and have implemented their own Covid mandates, right?
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    Irrelevant to how utterly atrocious this "reasoning" is.
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    You do realize that marshmallows are white, right?
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    Actually marshmallows come in a variety of colors and flavors.
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    You do know that the trees produce wood, right?
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    I'm sure they'll ramp it up to eleven now.
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    Actually, they produce oxygen. Trees are made of wood.
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    Are you thinking of Oreos?
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    No.
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  13. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    NPR explained the reasoning was that "Any company with more than 100 workers" was too broad. That it might have flown for businesses where employees are packed like sardines...like some manufacturing businesses or where employees sit right next to each other, etc.
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    On the other hand, they upheld the mandate for medical workers.
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    It goes right back to Scalia's broccoli argument, IMO.
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    My thoughts exactly.
    https://reason.com/2022/01/13/supre...his-is-no-everyday-exercise-of-federal-power/
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    The mandate was for vaccination or testing.
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    Have seen how hard it is to get tested lately?
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    No, it doesn't.

    My coworker buying broccoli (or not) has no impact on my health, nor on public health in general.
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    Sooo ... OSHA could come back with "any business where two or more people work in the same room" and it would pass muster? Hmm.
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    That seems to be the reasoning to me, presumably though the room would probably be under some cap on square footage. Probably ventilation would also be taken into account, etc. :shrug:

    Ultimately, I still think this whole thing was Biden throwing big business a bone. They want to impose a mandate, but they don't want to get blamed for imposing a mandate. Biden told them to go ahead and mandate it and let everyone blame him.
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    Although I never looked into it to find out for sure, I always assumed that 100 employees was just the threshold where some of OSHA's statutory powers kicked in.

    After all, plenty of other workplace rules (such as the mandate to provide health insurance) only start to apply above various numbers of employees, mostly because legislators know that Walmart whining about a regulation will get less favorable media coverage than a mom-and-pop restaurant owner whining about a regulation.
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    Yes, I think that's probably true. Most business owners know that having a fully vaccinated workforce is good for them, but they don't want to get daily death threats from deranged right-wing lunatics.
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    Remember when Biden said he wasn't going to do mandates?
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    Can OSHA mandate that everyone must eat broccoli for health and safety reasons?
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    I remember him saying he wasn't considering any new mandates in the face of Omicron...but that was after he announced this one.
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    Will my decision not to eat broccoli cause you to get fat and have a heart attack?
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  28. Steal Your Face

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    Doesn't matter, OSHA apparently wants unlimited power.
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    Giving OSHA a lot of credit there.
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    Then why did you bring it up? And I thought this was Biden's mandate?