Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

My assumption is that Vulcans do not make the same type of distinction between a personal name and a family name as Earth-English, Earth-Chinese, and Bajoran people do, in which the personal name is used informally and the family name used in more formal circumstances and when an honorific is attached.

It's clear that the personal name Spock is used in both informal and formal contexts, so saying "Mr. Spock" is correct and not equivalent to saying "Mr. Jean-Luc," and at the same time it is perfectly acceptable to call him "Spock" in a more intimate setting along with "Bones" and "Jim."

What's less clear is what role Spock's other name serves.

In "This Side of Paradise," Leila simply says "you never told me if you had another name" and Spock says "you couldn't pronounce it." (Which, as an aside, could be taken to mean that humans can't pronounce it, or it's possible he was just being condescending to Leila. If it's the first, then it should really never be spoken on screen, and should remain like Fez's name on That '70s Show.) Canonically we know that he has another name, but nothing about its function.

It could be a family name that he shares with Sarek, but it could also be a name unique to him that has spiritual significance -- in which case speaking it in anything but the most private and sacred of contexts could be taboo. (T'Lar might have spoken it privately during fal-tor-pan with nobody but Spock and McCoy present, but refrained when the rest of the crew was watching.)

I am assuming that T'Lar's use of "Sarek, child of Skon, child of Solkar" is something done primarily in ritual and does not indicate regular use of patronymics in Vulcan society.

Note also, that Sarek never calls Spock by any other name than Spock. As a Vulcan, he should be able to pronounce it. Also, his mother, Amanda, never uses a nickname for him, merely refers to him by his, apparent, surname. (I say "apparent" because Memory Alpha just gives the first names for Spock's parents, no last names.)

In some cultures, people are given a multitude of names. One is their public name, that is used by people who aren't members of their immediate family, another is their private name, used only by immediate members of their family, and the third is their religious name, used only during religious ceremonies (and often spoken only by the person and by the religious leaders during the ceremony).

Whilst I think that this is giving the writers too much sophistication, it's entirely possible that since Spock was, apparently, the first human/Vulcan hybrid, his first name was of a "sacred" character, and thus not to be spoken by any other than a chosen few, or at certain times and situations. It's also possible that he was so mocked as a child by his first name that the use of it became painful to him, and he requested that everyone capable of speaking his first name refrain from doing so. (Or that it entered the Vulcan language as a slur.)

something like this, maybe?

Interesting ... I went to school with a guy named Yaw, and of course there's Kofi Annan and Kwame Kenyatta ... had no idea that was the origin of those names.

Wait why is Uhura in this?

Because the writers don’t watch Star Trek?

No that can't be it, they clearly know who La'an Noonien-Singh is.

she's supposedly 28 and a full LT in S1 of TOS.
They're portraying her as a cadet in BNW.

Granted, this slightly contradicts a throwaway line from SfS by a few years of her being a 20 year veteran.. but can be explained as a minor character not knowing her exact commission year.

That's the second time (that I've seen) you've unintentionally used BNW (presumably Brave New World) instead of SNW

it's been that kind of week year..

Strange New Worlds' Bridge Crew Speaks Out on Inheriting Star Trek's Legacy

More at the link.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' Ethan Peck Teases Spock's Trials

Episode titles reminiscent of TOS.
https://trekcentral.net/strange-new-worlds-episode-titles-details-revealed/?amp=1

I'm particularly interested in the episode entitled, "For Number One Is Hot and I Have Touched Myself"

so this turned up...



they named a shuttle after Stamets

As others pointed out in the comments, why fly a shuttle so close to the ship only to beam aboard? Maybe the reason will be obvious when the actual episode is out.

Maybe Pike just wanted to get a good look at his girl.

Besides, beaming is still quicker than docking.

Seems like a silly nitpick to me.

It's not a nitpick, it's a question. I even supplied a possible answer in the comments to the YT vid.

The question itself implies the nitpick.

In fact, doesn't the shuttle pilot say she's en route to the transport coordinates?

Not if there's a satisfactory answer to be had.

Yes she does. But it still doesn't answer why they need to fly a shuttle to the ship to transport onto it.

That's literally all I want to know. Why do they need to fly a shuttle that close to the ship to transport onto it, and if they are flying a shuttle to the ship anyway, why not just dock with it?

I'm HOPING that the question will be answered. But if it isn't, I am not going to lose sleep over it.

Again, the question itself is a nitpick. Maybe there's a reason, maybe there isn't.

Maybe he transported to the Enterprise because he just friggin' felt like it.

Why did I walk to the corner store today instead of driving, like I did yesterday?

No other reason than it looks better on the screen than to have the shuttle so far off the Enterprise looks like a tiny dot in the distance.

I'll go with there are too many things (random tachyons, it's always fuckin' tachyons) to interfere with a longer ranged transport in a space dock's lines of site, necessitating a target area.

This is why I ever joined message boards in the first place.

The shuttle bay is under construction until Tuesday.

I think it's weird how it's only a week away now, and we haven't heard the theme song yet.
We got the Prodigy theme practically a month before the pilot.

Who cares. Skip credits.

The theme!



Yeah, I was about right.
It starts and ends with the TOS theme, but they added a bunch to it in the middle.

Holy shit, that's great! And the visuals echo the best bits of the VOY titles with the ship scudding over stellar phenomena.

*WAB's head explodes*