Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

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  1. Tererune

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    agaian, I want to say to you and other feminists that I feel that you are correct that you should not be letting trans people take your place, and women obviously suffer the problems of sexism in overwhelming ways. Our species would be much different, bigger, and better if we had not reduced the input of half of our people. This is also the half with the huge bond of creation with our offspring.

    Hell, if you know someplace where the trannies need to stop assaulting feminists I might be persuaded to come there with some strong arguments. I do not know if it will work as I have been banned for going to those places before. I may be a bit too rough for some people, but I have cooled and become better at abiding by moderation over the years.

    I like discussions like this and I think they benefit society both for trans acceptance and understanding, but also to highlight sexism in our society because those who bend gender and change gender enhance the expression of gender and our understanding of how we appreciate ours. It is not that cisgendered people have a more shallow and simple gender, it is that their expressing is less restricted and aligned with their identity. So it blossoms a lot more in many different directions. When you are trying to fit into a gender paradigm to satisfy society's doubts that you are a specific gender you get limited in your expression.

    In other words, in order to express myself as female I have to adorn female things, but @T'Bonz can bend gender expression because she already is that gender. I am not complaining I am behind, but it becomes why I cannot get ahead. I can only get ahead in trans expression or drag queening. You just dio woman naturally because you are cis. I have to conform to cis gender expression to express as a woman because i was born with a male body.

    Am I the only one who dislikes assigned male at birth?
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  2. Uncle Albert

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ce-transgender-children-permanent-damage.html

    Just putting it on pause. Totally reversible. No consequences.
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  3. Tererune

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    Non-peer reviewed. So it is a interesting point and will be studied further.

    Do you know what is peer reviewed? The positive effects of HRT on trans youth. You also know what might not be a concern for a trans person? The operation of their wrong genitals. Really, it begs the question of why Al is so worried about other people's decisions regarding their life? It is not like this is being forced on people in any way, but UA is all about being involved in other people's medical experience because he is a libertarian.

    way to fascist you libertarian boob.
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    Uncle Albert: *goes hunting for a source to support his desired conclusion, finds an article from one of the most consistently dishonest newspapers on the planet, eagerly posts it*

    Everyone Else: *spends two pages dissecting it and pointing out the various ways it's bullshit*

    Uncle Albert: *completely ignores it all; posts another Daily Mail article instead*
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  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Maybe it's time to start dragging Huffpost and Dailykos articles back into play.
    I'm sure he won't mind.
    :?:
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  6. Uncle Albert

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    Refute the claims or go fuck yourself with your "attack the source" nonsense.
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  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    (UA as a supervillain)

    UA- *Waits hiding behind a bush next to a tiger trap*
    Oh please...oh please..oh please..:polarslam2:

    Hero- *Sees the trap. Sees UA. Walks away* :no:

    UA- Get back here and play right!! :mad:
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  8. Tererune

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    What part of working as intended did you not understand?

    Let me try to put it in a less accurate, but more blunt way. When you want to put your dick in a blender and turn it into a vagina, you are not worried about if your testicles will work in the future because they are not going to be there.

    You are treating the desired effect as if it is an unwanted side effect and that simply isn't true. No trans female is asking to take hormone blockers and worrying that their sperm will be ok. That is your concern, and frankly my sperm is none of your business. That also applies to some trans child's sperm. If they do not want to be a man and impregnate women then their sperm not working is part of the fucking plan you dipshitted fucktard.

    You are treating this argument like you are the one getting denied the choice, but the reality is there is a choice being made and the choice is to fuck off with the cock and balls.

    It is not a matter of if they dropped you on your head as a child, but rather how often and how fucking high they dropped you from.
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  9. tafkats

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    If you'd bother to read the posts you're studiously ignoring, you'd see that we did. The fact that we also mentioned the Daily Mail's propensity toward dishonesty doesn't mean that's the only thing we said.
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  10. Tererune

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    Maybe @Uncle Albert is confused and stupid. Forget that UA is confused and stupid so I will say it again.

    No one is giving puberty blockers to every kid. No one is giving them to kids who have not demanded them because they know they are trans. No one is just giving this out because a kid might be questioning their gender for a moment.

    That is not happening. That is not a thing. People are lying to you and gaslighting you.

    On top of that, you win the argument if you are arguing against giving puberty blockers to all kids until they decide what gender they are. That is not happening, and you are right that it should not. Maybe there is some idiot out there saying that as there are people saying the eartrh is flat and trump is worth billions. That is not what is happening, and if someone is forcing puberty blockers on an unwilling healthy child, then that person is committing child abuse.

    That is the way the law is, and that is what is happening. You win, and the world has heard you and we will not be doing that.
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  11. Diacanu

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    Any day now, liberals will chop the dick off an unwilling 5 year old.
    That's the kind of thing they would do.
    Because of all the other horrible things they've done.
    Like Pizzagate.
    Well, that wasn't real, but it's the kind of thing they would do.
    Because of all the other horrible things they've done.
    Like Jade Helm.
    Well, that wasn't real, but it's the kind of thing they would do.
    Because of all the other horrible things they've done.
    Like FEMA death camps.
    Well, that wasn't real, but it's the kind of thing they would do.
    Because of all the other horrible things they've done.
    Like live post-birth abortions.
    Well, that wasn't real, but it's the kind of thing they would do.
    Because of all the other horrible things they've done.
    Like....like..like..like....

    Yep, any day now the bullshit's gonna be real.
    I can feel it in my feelings.
    Especially the hate.
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    "Listen, male scum!" the pink-haired Starbucks barista said to her boyfriend. "You're going to have sex with me and like it!" She pushed him to the bed and mounted him, because all her radical feminist college professors had told her she would be a traitor to the womyn's sisterhood if she ever allowed a man to be on top. She rode him until he splooged inside her, and she got pregnent.

    Even though the pink-haired Starbucks barista had had six abortions already, because that's the kind of irresponsible bitch she was, she decided to have this baby because she thought it would be her meal ticket. She dumped her boyfriend and a radical feminist judge ordered him to labor 16 hours a day in the salt mines for the rest of his life to support her.

    Everything was looking wonderful, until the baby was born. It was a boy! The pink-haired Starbucks barista was triggered. "You'll thank me for this later!" she screeched while cutting off his genitals with an X-Acto knife.
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  13. Tererune

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    Oh, now I get why @Uncle Albert is so pissed. Why didn't he just say that is what happened to him. I did not realize UA's mom was so horrible. Now it all makes sense.

    I am not for doxxing someone, but maybe someone should put that in his sig so people understand why he is so fucked up.
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    I don't see you refuting shit.
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  15. Steal Your Face

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    Don’t leftists want to be like Europe? Why are European countries walking back their trans policies? Why are they banning puberty blockers? Why is big pharma so invested in puberty blockers?
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    This is not the sort of sentence I expect to see in a scientific study (I have over 100 peer-reviewed scientific publications), but the writings of an ephebophile:

    The pristine testicular tissues of a healthy juvenile populace are reserved primarily for fertility preservation and consequently, their availability to the scientific community is profoundly restricted
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  17. Spaceturkey

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    and on what do you base the claim of Europe "walking back" trans rights?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiew...022-despite-growing-backlash/?sh=2a8a3aed5c78

    About those "some countries"... seems it's often conservative leaning governments and activists acting against the will of a majority of the people.

    https://www.ilga-europe.org/blog/data-acceptance-lgbti-people-europe/

    https://www.euronews.com/2023/10/28/trans-rights-in-europe-where-does-your-country-stand
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    That should up the urine content of @Uncle Albert 's cheerios.
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    I don't kink shame...
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    You're such a shitty libertarian and/or person. :jayzus:

    So long as the potential risks of a medication are properly explained to the person that wants to take said medication, how is it any of your fucking business if they choose to take it or not? Are you going to ban minors from eating pizza and French fries next? Fuck you and your freedom hating nanny state bullshit. :shrug:
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    https://www.city-journal.org/article/yes-europe-is-restricting-gender-affirming-care
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    umm... it's an opinion piece from a right wing think tank.
    says nothing about "walking back" legal enfranchisements.

    doesn't real say much of anything really, despite all the words.

    Tell ya what... YOU read it now and highlight the parts you feel are salient or supportive of your claim that "Why are European countries walking back their trans policies?" (and yes, that is a claim despite phrasing it in the form of a leading question)


    Mostly the parts that the graphics I linked to show you're wrong about the next one...
    You've still yet to show, let alone prove that national policies have been retracted or repealed
    Again, not shown in the editorial you've posted
    "so" invested? I mean, ignoring that they're drug companies and it's kinda what they do-invent and sell drugs in case you need a clarification (or a claritin). At an extreme, I'd wonder if puberty blockers couldn't someday prove to be a stepping stone to increased human longevity. Viagra was intended as heart medication, so ya never know where it could wind up being applicable.
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  23. Steal Your Face

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    :rolleyes: "Opinion piece" Opinion pieces contain actual factual information and you know it. Anyway,
    The part in bold is my emphasis and a clear change in policy.
    Imagine urging caution and restraint before changing a kid's life and body permanently
    I like this part.
    Could it be as Abigail Shier posited in her book Irreversible Damage that it's attention seeking behavior and that's popular now?
    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...rt-trans-children-toxic-debate-lack-109081307

    Here's a non opinion piece.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...e-rethinking-gender-affirming-care-for-minors
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    I'm not gonna dig deeply into this right now, because I have a feeling @Nova will have all the information right off the top of her head, but regarding the increase in the number of young people identifying as transgender, I'll just note that the incidence of left-handedness shot up dramatically as soon as teachers stopped beating kids for being left-handed.

    There aren't any more transgender people than there used to be. People like you just have less power to beat them into submission than you used to.
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    Left handedness is a physical trait not some dude wants to pretend to be a girl.
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    Actually, there's strong evidence that both your gender identity and your dominant hand are traits determined by the physiology of your brain. What's more, @Nova has posted reams upon reams of this evidence over the past decade, so you really have no excuse for remaining this ignorant.
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  27. Spaceturkey

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    The point is that it's medical establishments changing an approach, not the implied national policies.

    but thanks for actually providing an actual analysis to your link. how does it feel to have that cherry finally popped?
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    what, that there's no simple explanation... which likely should read as "single".

    because one of the simpler explanations is that medical understanding is constantly evolving.

    consider how autism diagnoses shot up in no small part because psychologists and neurologists figured out what traits to look for after decades of only a vague understanding.
    after that consider shit like population growth or how environmental factors and regions have evolved over the past century of actually useful mental health science... how that'd affect physiological attributes of different generations.
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    The 100 years ago you and UA would've said left handednes was a "fad" being spread by delinquents.
    And the "cure" would have magically been torture.
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    The question is: Are those facts relevant to the discussion? Odds are, and this is true regardless of the political leanings of the person writing the opinion piece, most of them aren't. That's one of the reasons this lefty rarely posts them, and always flags them as an opinion piece.
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