There were enough facts to prove misdemeanors long before the Mueller report came out. In addition, the report details corruption, collusion surrounding the President, and several attempts at obstruction of justice from the President.
No it doesn't. You can keep telling yourself that until you're blue in the face, but we have a report specifically saying the contrary.
I am not sure I could ever take the republican platoform seriously again after how much they have allowed trump to do. It is not like anyone, including their base, holds their people accountable for some extremely problematic behavior. I always thought if a person like trump ran they would not allow him the republican brand, and if somehow that person fooled them they would remove them for a vice president who fits their image. I may not agree with Pence, but at least he would be presidential. Trump is honey boo boo spoiled and terrible. There is no integrity left with them allowing trump to run around like a poorly trained chihuahua barking and pissing all over the white house. Trump is the sort of hillbilly redneck you bathe in a pool with the garden hose because he is too fucked up to shit in the house, and his trashy wife and kids are no better. I am pretty sure he is the randy quaid of his family.
Shall we make it easy for him? He'll still say TL;DR, but he can't deny it was right there in front of him: I'm highlighting it in a different color rather than using the quote function, so he can try his but it will just make him look foolish...not for the first time, but hey. I'm sure @Zombie will be along any minute now to tell us "IT DOESN'T SAY THAT!!!!11!" The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials-hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government-began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November. In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks's first release of stolen documents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities. That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government "directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including US political organizations," and, "[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process." After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia's interference in the election. Within the Executive Branch, these investigatory efforts ultimately led to the May 2017 appointment of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III. The order appointing the Special Counsel authorized him to investigate "the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election," including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign. As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel's investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.
I did read the entire post of yours garamet and it still comes down to the part I'm quoting. Regardless of what the Russian govt. intended, regardless of what the Trump campaign intended or wished or, Mueller's investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government. I'm uncertain as to just why that can't be any more clear to you and others?
Wouldn't you be attacking (and insulting) Pence unmercifully for his previous support of conversion therapy for homosexuals?
Are you really so lazy you can't click on the link in Post #154 THAT CONTAINS THE ENTIRE 448-PAGE REPORT???
How "we'll see"? Are you suggesting Mueller lied? Remember its not like Mueller and his staff were a bunch of Republican operatives. Quite the opposite in fact.
If you've read it then you should have no problem providing quotes to back up your claim. All that has been sited so far is proof that Russia tried to interfere in the election and that people working for Trump contacted the FBI about it. And no I'm not going to read a 400 plus book ie:do your work for you. YOU are the one making the claim therefore it is up to YOU to provide the statements from the report. If this was a book report you'd get a big fat F for your efforts.
Yanno, there's some evidence that Der Drumpfenfuhrer may be profoundly dyslexic and unable or unwilling to read. That seems to be endemic in large segments of today's GOP. I say that with the knowledge that another wealthy NY Republican politician, Nelson Rockefeller, was also profoundly dyslexic. But rather than buying his way into military academies and a (claimed) MBA from Wharton (which has since been debunked), Rockefeller's parents engaged private tutors and he emerged an educated man. They just don't make Republicans the way they used to.
That would be the thing to do, wouldn't it? No, unfortunately nobody working for Trump thought to contact the FBI about the offers of assistance they were receiving from Russians. In fact, they lied again and again to keep their links to Russia from becoming known. "[T]he investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference." "The investigation did not always yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office’s judgment, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The Office limited its pursuit of other witnesses and information — such as information known to attorneys or individuals claiming to be members of the media — in light of internal Department of Justice policies. See, e.g., Justice Manual §§ 9-13.400, 13.410. Some of the information obtained via court process, moreover, was presumptively covered by legal privilege and was screened from investigators by a filter (or “taint”) team. Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete, leading to some of the false-statements charges described above. And the Office faced practical limits on its ability to access relevant evidence as well — numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and documents were held outside the United States. Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign-deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts. Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report."
I'm telling you, Tighty Righties have a serious problem with reading comprehension. I think the actual meanings of words frighten them, so they react with whenever they feel threatened. Sad, really.
Well, he straight up told us he wasn't going to read it. Points for honesty, but in that case he probably shouldn't attempt to characterize the contents.
Does he see some schoolyard "I ain't gonna read it and you can't make me!" trope as "winning"? I wonder. I just realized I haven't used the term "Tighty Righty" in a while. Now I've also realized what @T.R stands for...
They seemed to have tried but failed because of incompetence. Cohen tried to email a representative of the Russian government but spelled it wrong and confused another official with an Olympic weightlifter and ignored it. So it wasn't for lack of trying, they just fucked up. Trump also tried to interfere with the investigation, but no one obeyed to him. So they technically didn't commit any crimes, they just tried to. I'm really not sure what worries me more about that.
If a bank robber intends to rob a bank but gets the address mixed up so he never arrives at the bank then he doesn't get charged with bank robbery now does he?
You don't understand the meaning of Post #141? Thank you for supporting my hypothesis that Tighty Righties don't understand words.
You are talking about the President of the United States of America, who is not supposed to be some random lowlife criminal.