Halo 3 public beta arrives in May

BBC


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I know someone that would love to know about this...
BRB.

This is the beta that you can only access through having bought a copy of Crackdown right?

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=MPBetaAndVidocRelease

So glad I bought Crackdown.

Halo is pretty good. It is also incredibly overrated.

I agree. It plays like any first person shooter, except you have to use the klunky Xbox controller instead of the mouse. The best thing about it is the hype Xbox fans generate everytime it nears release.

lol Halo is what made FPS on a console wildly popular. Considering until Gears of War was released, that it was the most popular online console game (and still going strong), I wouldn't say it was over-rated at all. Considering I'm not really a fan of the series, either.

Goldeneye/Perfect Dark on the 64 disagree!

It was an awesome game, yes, but it's not what made FPS popular on consoles. The N64 itself just wasn't that popular and Goldeneye did not have the popularity that Halo has.

Goldeneye and Halo both sold around 8 million copies. At it's time Goldeneye was incredibly popular, I know more people who have played it than Halo.

Also, the 64 was much more popular than the XBox, it just seemed less succesful next to the Playstation. The N64 sold 33 million consoles, the XBox sold 24 million.

Deus Ex is better than them all.

Not really.

I, to this day, stand by my statement that Goldeneye/Perfect Dark are the only FPSes on a console that have control schemes that make sense.

At least, of the one's I've played.

It was still and is still not as popular as Halo is/was.

I think you are still mistaking what you like more, and what is more popular now, with an objective viewpoint.

I never owned a 64, and I never owned an Xbox, but Goldeneye was the game that started the popularity of first person shooters on consoles. Do you have any evidence or numbers to back up your claims? No, because it's just your personal opinion.

Halo is still wildly popular to this day and still sells units. Halo 2 and Goldeneye had about the same amount of sales, but that doesn't always translate to popularity. Continued play and support are what translate into popularity. That there are still people buying it for the 360 and XBox1 and still playing it online, speaks volumes. It will surpass Goldeneye over time, considering it still sold 50k units in February.

Also, look at XBox installed base compared to N64 install base. XBox having a smaller install base and competing with 2 other consoles, instead of just 1.

I never said Goldeneye wasn't the FPS that started the popularity of FPS on consoles, although those that played Goldeneye are different from those who are playing Halo. Different generation of kids. Halo is what brought FPS on consoles into the mainstream. Look how many FPS are released for consoles now after Halo, compared to before Halo. Halo and Halo 2 are still popular to this day, 2 years after being released it was still the #1 game played over XBox live which is no small feat. Halo 2 made over $100 million in sales within it's first 24 hours of being released. It has been played over 4 billion times on XBox Live.

Just wait until Halo 3, which will outsell all of them. Hell, it was #1 on Amazon back in March for a short period of time.

Ask your average Joe about both the games, Halo and Goldeneye and see which one gets name recognition as a video game more.

And thanks to Rare being owned by MS we might even be able to download the N64 Goldeneye 007 over XBox Live Arcade down the road.

There is no other hard numbers to compare the two of them. But it's pretty safe to hazard a guess that Halo 3 will outsell all of them when all is said and done.

Oh and I did own both.

One of these quotes is not like the other.

I'm not denying Halo is succesful, and the franchise has done better than Rares fps adventures on the 64 (since many people considered Perfect Dark to be an evolution of Goldeneye in many ways), but it does seem you are straining for ways to argue that Halo is the best thing ever omg awesome.

Yet if it were released for PC, it would've gone unnoticed.

Basically what they did is rip off other series', then release it to an audience that didn't know anything about shooters.

These are comments I remember vividly when Xbox was released:

"ZOMG there are vehicles?! It's revolutionary, nothing has had vehicles yet!"
"Well tribes 2 did it about 4 years ago... "
"What the hell is tribes 2? Shut up halo rulez!"

"Zomg the graphix are sooo good!"
"Well if you consider 484 lines and tech from 1.5 years ago to be good..."
"What game has better graphics than halo? Tell me that!"
"Well there are plenty of games on the PC with much better graphics..."
"Whatever, halo has the best graphics of any game ever!"

"Zomg you can play with 16 playerz!"
"yeah but you need 4 xbox's and 4 TV's in one building... plus you can play 64 players on plenty of PC games online, so you can play with others whenever you want. Oh and you don't have to split screen."
"Wtf do you mean 'play games online' !? Srsly I think halo is the best game that was ever made in the history of the world!"

The list goes on and on, including halo fans arguing that Xbox's old gigantor controller was better than a keyboard + mouse for shooters, and that Xbox had better graphics capabilities than a PC. The list goes on.

Bumpped for leaked gameplay video.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/clip-new-halo-3-beta-vid-254649.php

Then you read the quotes wrong.

Goldeneye started the popularity of FPS on consoles, Halo is what made them wildly popular. Do you not see the difference of those two statements? If not, then you're purposely trying to read into my statement and trying to place words into my mouth saying "OMG HALO IS UBER AWESOME", when I've never said such a thing. Halo is still being played day in and day out today. 4 billion games (or matches) of Halo have been played over XBox Live.

I don't even really play the game, I have played them both, but I'm not a big fan of most FPS on consoles. I'd rather play with a keyboard+mouse/trackball... /shrug

Are we talking about PC games? I don't think so. I believe we're talking about why Halo made FPS on consoles really popular.

Again, I wasn't arguing which is a better platform for playing FPS. I was playing FPS on PCs back when I owned a 386 dx25. Always prefered the Unreal series to Doom series and was not a fan of Tribes at all.

We will see which is the better setup for FPS here in the near future I guess, being that Shadowrun will be one of the first FPS games to throw both console and PC players into the same environment. But, I'd still go with keyboard/mouse over a controller.

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Only because Halo's dad bought him a Porsche

I told you why. MS took a PC and called it a console. The entire concept of the DirectXbox was that you could use PC-gaming type methods to create games on a console.

Then they put a PC shooter on it. Many console gamers had never played PC shooters and they thought this game was super amazing, when in fact it was a pretty average offering.

Smart play by MS to repurpose it though. Read up, you will find that Halo was planned for PC until MS bought it and changed direction for the DirectXbox (which they renamed Xbox).

Of course, Halo was first demonstrated on a Mac.

Then they found something that has more then a 2.1mhz processor.

Wasn't Halo basically a take on Marathon or like an alternate universe or something?

I've never played Marathon (yes I know, I'm ashamed) but from what I hear while it isn't technically meant to take place in the same universe there are a few references in Halo to Marathon.