Parental rights

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Linda R., Jul 30, 2007.

  1. Linda R.

    Linda R. Fresh Meat

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    There was an article in The Guardian today about which companies have the most family-friendly policies. I won't link to it: it took up most of G2 and was far too long for most here to read.
    But one thing didn't surprise me: in the telecoms sector, Vodafone, for which daughter works, had one of the highest ratings.
    Now one of her cousins, who is a mother, also works for Vodafone, and we've seen just how well the company treats parents.
    But I must admit to a twinge of sympathy with daughter when she exclaimed, 'Why the bloody hell should I be penalised just because I know how to use a condom!!!!'

    Bear in mind, what Vodafone does isn't mandated by law, it's just company policy.
    In that light, discuss...
  2. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Uncle Albert is going to have a field day. I say private company can do as it wants, and daughter and UA can fuck off.
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  3. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I should add, that it is only a very narrow focus that thinks somebody can only be productive if they put it time off the clock at the office. Vodafone and other such companies make decisions about family friendly policies based on the need to attract top talent. Such policies are no different from any other part of the benefits package. And far from penalizing the non-parents, I think they mostly encourage the parents to work more efficiently.
  4. Linda R.

    Linda R. Fresh Meat

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    Daughter's headache is that she knows damn well that in cousin's case, that ain't so. She just uses it as an excuse to skive.
    But I wish such policies had been around when she was a baby, and I'm well aware than one goldbricker does not invalidate an entire scheme...
    That said, I still feel daughter's pain. ;)
  5. Captain J

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    UA should be happy. A private company doing what it wants to outside of gov't regs.
  6. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    Is this just academic knowledge, or does she know from experience? If from experience, how often and when was the latest use of it by her? Is she hot?

    The world needs to know.
  7. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    Sounds fine to me. I do object to anything under this topic being referenced as a "right," however. These are privileges, offered voluntarily by an employer, nothing more.
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    I've always hated the legal descrimination that gives benefits to those that are married or have kids.

    Especially in the military...where two people of the same rank doing the same job and assigned to the same command are paid differently based on their marital/child status.

    I don't even see how it's legal.
  9. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    How is she punished?
  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Rearing a child is the most important job on Earth, which unfortunately is left in large part to amateurs.

    There's no owner's manual, no warranty, no return policy.

    And God forbid it get in the way of the bottom line, or the comfort of the childless.
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  11. Megatron

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    Unless the mother is a dirty spic or a nigger, then she just bitchslaps the kid and says "SHUT YO' MOUTH!" whenever the kid wants a toy or something.
  12. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    If you have signed a contract that includes those conditions they are your right for as long as you are employed there under that contract.

    Also, does this mean you are going back on your bitchfest from a few months ago about parents being allowed to leave work early?
  13. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    What do you mean no owners manual? I was at Borders today and they have a whole row of owners manuals for kids, some of which might actually have been written by a parent! :P
  14. JUSTLEE

    JUSTLEE The Ancient Starfighter

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    I can understand giving parents some leeway over their kids. For example, if there's an emergency they should be allowed to get off work to tend to their kids. I don't see that as an advantage, just a neccessity since kids come first. But I don't believe they should be given special privaleges that childless people don't get.
  15. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    And where did your mother go wrong with you?
  16. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    She couldn't figure out how to use the coathanger.
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  17. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    I think it would depend on the job . . . I don't think I'd want my surgeon to leave in the middle of a procedure just because his kid got sick at school. There are some jobs that require that kind of commitment. But there are lots of jobs that don't, and companies that recognize that a more flexible schedule (where possible) results in less stressed-out employees.
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  18. Nautica

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    Reminds me of a former job I held at a local hospital, where in addition to the standard medical coverage, we got a bonus 15% extra coverage if we used our own hospital's facilities/doctors. That only made sense to me, but some people insisted on turning it into "why are we penalized that extra coverage if we DON'T use our own facilities/doctors?" :dayton: :jayzus: A bunch of real GLASS HALF-EMPTY folks, those were. :rolleyes: :bang:
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  19. Megatron

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    Nowhere, why? I am not sure I understand your idiotic hostility.
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    Too bad you'll die by your son shooting you in the head one day.

    :cool:
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Hey, someone give Tasvir his meds.
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    Why don't you go and merge a few threads?
  23. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Awwww cry a little more baby. :rolleyes:

    You've gotta be one of the biggest weak-skinned pussies around here!

    I bet you shriek like a chick and jump onto the nearest chair whenever you see a cockroach. :jayzusL
  24. Megatron

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    Are you high?
    Says the fat face that runs to every thread I post in and tries to discredit me, even failed at trolling me recently.
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    And I bet you are a flaccid SOB trying to one-up everyone in r/l and failing miserably.
  25. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    Good corporate citizenship means giving employees the benefits they need. Thus, I applaud family-friendly policies.
  26. bryce

    bryce Optimism - It's Back!

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    So who's going to come along and quote Ayn Rand quoting Marx???
  27. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    bryce Optimism - It's Back!

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    True. But she quoted him in [SIZE=-1]Atlas Shrugged.

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  29. Excelsius

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    I'll defer to you on that. It's been many nightmares since my tragic encounter with Rand.
  30. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Brush your teeth before you talk to me, pissant. :rolleyes:

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