Former CIA officer: US to attack Iran within 6 months

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Not all people who advocate war jack off to dead muslims.

    But people who jack off to dead muslims all advocate war.
    And they use "legitimate reasons", in a doomed attempt to mask this.

    What tells me you are of the latter group, Dayton, is your open admission back on TNZ of desiring America to have imperial dominion of the entire planet.
  2. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Yeah, those were good days at TNZ.

    But even though I advocated U.S. expansion and domination of the earth I didn't want it to be a bloodbath either side.
  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Power crazy without bloodthirst is a new kind of unparalleled nativity I'm not sure I know how to process.
    :shock:
  4. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Process it this way.

    I want the U.S. to have power over the rest of the world.

    But gaining that power just for the sake of power isn't worth it.
  5. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Then what's the sake of power over the rest of the world in the first place?
  6. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Peace.

    Pax Romana

    Pax Britannica

    A single very dominant nation controlling the heart of the known world has historically been the best way of promoting peace and prosperity.
  7. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    Funny, I agree with neither. :)
  9. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Centralization of power just gives everyone one place to shoot.
    :diacanu:
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Which is an improvement over "many places to shoot".
  11. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Agreed.

    But I also don't like the idea of some coffee house anarchist with syphallus and a bolt-action rifle able to shut down the planet.
  12. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    Dayton - If you imply that the situation couldn't possibly be worse, or that there couldn't possibly be a larger number of extremist Muslims in the world, you're gonna get called stupid for it. Tough shit.

    You also said that I was "self loathing", somewhere between your casual longing for thousands of deaths and chanting of your "war is peace" mantras. Care to justify that?
  13. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    I lamented the immigration policy because of the situation they were in. But I don't care too much about the actual situation. :shrug:

    This is hardly even worth replying to, because you didn't even bother reading my reply.

    I'm "gung-ho" about tracking down the people who attacked us on 9/11. I don't care about Iran. I don't care about Iraq. I don't want to waste American lives on either of those places.
  14. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    No I don't.

    While I believe it, I don't have enough of an interest in it to waste the time.
  15. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Focusing on the "people who attacked us on 9/11" makes it sound too much like a criminal act rather than an act of war.

    In waging a war, just killing the people involved doesn't matter. Smashing their base of operations and support is much more vital.
  16. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    How exactly does a decentralized criminal organization declare war on somebody?
  17. Dayton Kitchens

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    I wouldn't call Al Queda "decentralized".(not prior to the U.S. smashing into Afghanistan).

    They had a clear leader and chain of command with a well organized command structure and a reliable funding mechanism.

    Plus they always used a nation as their base of operations. First Sudan then Afghanistan.

    Finally, their leader Osama Bin Laden himself declared war on the United States with a publicly aired statement.
  18. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Okay, fuck decentralized, how does a criminal organization declare war on someone?

    Substitute Cobra Commander for Osama.
    See? He's just a messianic loon.
    War is a state between,...well, states.
    Give war into the hands of self-styled supervillains, all bets are off.
  19. Excelsius

    Excelsius Dreamer of Dreams

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    The United States has lost much of the world's confidence that it is defeating Al Qaeda. Because much of the current war is based on perception, this is a serious issue.
  20. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    If what you say is true, then we're unlawfully detaining those "soldiers" at Gitmo.
  21. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Rosencrantz can't even keep his personas straight enough to remember what he hates.

    Laughable, mang.
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  22. Dayton Kitchens

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    They aren't soldiers.

    They are illegal combatants.

    Illegal combatants may in fact fight in a war but they are not entitled to any of the protections given uniformed regular soldiers.

    Unless you fight wearing a uniform or other means of clear identification, then you do not deserve the protections of international agreements and may be summarily executed.
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  23. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    And why, exactly, do you care if I show my "real" persona? Do you want to meet me? Did you like some aspect that I portrayed and want to have lunch with it?
  24. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    And what country declared war on us, Dayton?

    Who are we fighting in this "war on terror" then?
  25. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    I have no interest in meeting you. You seem like an asshole. Mostly I just like making fun of you.
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  26. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    I am an asshole. :shrug:

    So what?
  27. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    I don't spend time with assholes.
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  28. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    Well, good for you, Nancy. Then you must think I'm the bee's knees, since you're spending such a great amount of time chit-chatting online with yours truly.
  29. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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  30. Cervantes

    Cervantes Fighting windmills

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    It must be nice to be on the outside for once.
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