Florida prediction thread

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  1. Turbo

    Turbo The Crazy Helps.

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    With South Carolina over, the Republican primary in Florida is heating up. Charlie Crist and Mel Martinez have both endorsed John McCain, which should be enough to push him past Romney and give him the state. I'm no good at percentages, so here's my predictions: McCain will eke out a narrow win over Romney. Guliani will be third, but he won't be close enough to either of the other two to become a factor on Super Tuesday. Huckabee and Paul will come in after them, but will both be non-factors.

    As for the Democratic opinion poll (still annoyed about my vote not actually counting for anything, if you couldn't tell), I think that Hillary will win, but the South Carolina win will cut her numbers down considerably. Obama will be second, and Edwards will be a very distant third. Also, turnout for the Democrats will be appallingly low, even with a constitutional amendment on the ballot.
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    If McCain wins that, am I right in saying that he's looking increasingly like the frontrunner?
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  3. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    ^ Yes. IIRC Florida is winner take all, so even a close second place finisher gets nothing.

    Plus Florida is the 4th largest State with a population almost as large as Romania.
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    ^ Yep, Florida is winner-take-all.
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    Caedus Fresh Meat Formerly Deceased Member

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    Governor Christ just endorsed McCain. :vomit:
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  6. Turbo

    Turbo The Crazy Helps.

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    *cough*alreadysaidthat*cough*

    And it's Crist.
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    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    I predict the end of Rudy and the field will be pared to 4. :bergman:
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    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Based on enthusiasm and primary turnout so far, the general election is the Democrats to lose, but McCain has a higher chance of beating the Democrat, whoever it is, than anyone else.
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    Doesn't make McCain frontrunner though. Romney's still WAY ahead in delegates going in.
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    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    But McCain has be ANOINTED as the frontrunner by the media...ANOINTED I say! :Pope:
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    More or less, and a win will give him momentum going into Super Tuesday.
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    I just had to make a remark about how nauseating it was to watch on TV.
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    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    Super Tuesday will be carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey, delegate-wise, between McCain and Romney. Huckster and Paul will even pick up a few delegates, and nothing will be decided, even after then.
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    So you think it'll be down to the wire, or even the convention to choose the candidate?
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    Even with all the endorsements the Maverick's been pulling in I think Romney will wind up getting the win. The economy's become the big thing people care about and John "I don't know nothing about no economics" McCain can't really compete with Mitt on that issue.
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    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    Keep in mind Florida is being "punished" by both parties by having fewer delegates becuase the legislature moved the primary day forward. It may be winner-take-all for the delegates, but it won't count as much.
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    Datamar called me with an automated poll and I did my part. :)

    Look for the results on datamar.com in a few days.
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    Florida usually has 114 Republican delegates. They cut the number in half, but that's still 57 delegates for the Republican winner, which would put McCain (38) ahead of Romney (72).
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    Isn't it an empty victory for whomever wins from the Democratic party since they have told the people of Florida they are no longer important enough to them to have delegates?
  20. Turbo

    Turbo The Crazy Helps.

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    Get the facts straight. They were stripped of their delegates because the Republicans in charge of the state moved the primaries up too far for the Democrats' liking. The Republican Party just gave the state a slap on the wrist.

    It's partisan politics at its worst from both parties.
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    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    No, sorry, the Republicans did not force the Democrats to remove the delegates. Pointing the finger as you seem to want to doesn't change the fact that the Democrats have sent a very clear message to the voters in Florida. It is not a good message either.
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    Read what I wrote.

    Florida has a Republican governor and a Republican Congress. The Republicans changed the date of the Florida primary. The Democratic Party got pissed and stripped the state of its delegates. The Republican Party only stripped half the delegates, leaving a sizable number.

    No, it doesn't send a good Democratic message, but it doesn't send a very good Republican message, either.
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    It is laughable how you can't accept the fact that the decision to remove the Democratic delegates rests solely on the shoulders of the Democratic Party. Blame the Republicans all that you want it doesn't the simple fact that the Democrats removed the delegates.
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    It's laughable how you can't grasp the fact that I'm saying both parties are to blame here.
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    I see exactly what you are saying and I think you are flat out wrong!
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    A brokered convention is a possibility...and desirable.
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  27. Turbo

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    We'll just agree to disagree, then.

    When was the last time we had a brokered convention? 1976, when Reagan threw his support to Ford? 'Cause that sure worked.
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    No, the removal of the Democratic delegates is SOLELY the DNC's fault.
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    And there would have been no reason for it if the Republicans had not moved the primary.
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    So you're suggesting that a State isn't entitled to schedule its primary whenever it pleases?