British 2 year old maxes out IQ test...

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  1. RickDeckard

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    And does not education level, nutrition and so forth affect IQ?
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    To somewhat echo Armalyte's sentiments, a majority of high IQ cases suffer from some form of psychological disorder. I, too, learn much easier than almost anybody I've ever known, and operate at speeds far beyond what most people can match. Perhaps to help illustrate, I should relay an anecdote. About a week ago, I was in my physics class. We're divided into groups of four or five. My group had been complaining that I worked ahead of them, so before class the professor had asked me to slow down and include them, as they felt that they weren't learning anything by copying off of me. I could digress, but to return to the story, at the end of each page of work I'd stop and wait for them to catch up. They took about many longer on every single page than I did, so while I'd finish one in forty seconds, they'd take ten minutes. Eventually, I got tired of waiting for my group mates to catch up, pulled out my chessboard, and invited a Japanese immigrant kid to play with me. We conversed in Japanese all the while, and even with these distractions, I ended up waiting eternities for my group to copy what I'd written: They couldn't even copy as fast as I wrote.

    While there are clear advantages to having such abilities, a plurality of mankind resents any perceived intelligence that reaches beyond his own. My group, in this case, treats me with generalised contempt, and I've done nothing but try to help them.

    My own autistic streak, though often opaque, as I've very high functioning, tends to get expressed through a number of anthropologising (is that a word? It is now) tendencies, generally, I feel no innate attachment to my own culture, and while this allows me to more objectively approach foreign cultures, alien detachment from your own culture and surroundings isn't exactly conductive towards building social relationships. You can't be an unusual success in life if your thoughts and ideas are either too abstract or poorly communicated, and those are generally the cases with people beyond a certain point. From there, various issues along the neurotic scale pop up with ease.
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  3. RickDeckard

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    Having taken IQ tests, I can't agree with that. Some degree of numeracy and experience of maths-type problem solving is definitely a help.
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  4. Speck

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    So.... What IQ are the people that design these tests?
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    No doubt. To use the Mensa entrance test as an example, I can't remember any of the mathematics questions going beyond applied uses of division and multiplication; things any third grader should be able to do. In those cases, this basic level of education merely allows the student to express his intelligence in such as a way as to be measurable by the administrators of the test. If Timothy went to school one day and returned with the ability to multiply, his intrinsic intelligence is still the same; his IQ didn't increase by virtue of a new mathematical operation. You could make a similar case with language. On their own, they aren't direct components of an IQ score, but they're necessary to measure it holistically.
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    You are Sheldon my friend. :P

    I have been in engineering classes with people like you. All I have to say is :P. lol Betcha can't teach worth shit. Don't take that in a bad way as I've know very few "smart" people who could. But I'm betting that is the break in communication with your classmates.

    They want to learn not copy, and the mere mortals need time. ;)
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    Yeah, my teaching skills aren't up to par. When I've tried explaining basic concepts (I'm talking "light reflects off of a mirror at an angle equal to that which it comes in at") I get blank stares and, "I don't get it." That's pretty damned frustrating for me, so eventually I give up and they get to copy. :D

    Really though, I think my physics group is quite a bit below average. I certainly hope so; I'm actually planning to be a teacher in the long run. That'll be with history/anthropology/humanities, however, which I'm actually passionate about. ;)

    Interpersonal communication is my major deficiency, and I'd happily trade any number of abilities in other areas for a better mastery, but alas...
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  8. Aenea

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    If your in physics I then probably. :P :flow: lol.

    Teaching is fun when you get the hang of it and you can break it down; however I would say you're probably more on the teaching college level not the high school level. You really have to break that down to it's smallest components.

    That being said teaching at a magnate school for science and math, may be closer to your level, than high school.
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    That was British Mensa, about 15 years ago.

    Man, fifteen years! Now I feel ooooooold. :jayzus: