Yep, or he could have ended the war and brought our troops home like he said he was going to do. [YT="take it to the bank"]5ZvWilRn0L8[/YT]
Enlisted person, I must inform you that President Obama is unable to travel in time in order to prevent 9/11. For future reference, time travel will not be rediscovered until 2059.
There's a surprise...... Anyway, the obvious long term positive solution is: better PowerPoint presentations! Yep...some mandatory meetings, disseminate some information, maybe have an Army-wide all-day "standown" to review and tweak procedures. Get a "think-tank" together and develop some new ACRONYMS..... Of course, STEP #1 as a leader is to deny you were aware of any impending danger - act shocked and surprised. Do a "Donald Rumsfeld" and whine that "we had no idea we wouldn't be welcomed with open arms! Who could possibly see this would drag on so long?" Rumsfeld apparently had a pet mouse in his pocket when he said "we." same way The Army always deals with these kinds of things.
Oh, please. If this had happened one year earlier everyone would be screaming about "whose watch it happened on". Well, people, this happened on Obama's watch - well into it, in fact.
Obama doesn't factor into this. It's not his job to run the day-to-day operations in the war. There are plenty of "boots on the ground" who have accurate intelligence to make decisions that can lead to things going TU. Guarantee the soldiers in the foxholes knew just how much danger they were in, and as the information went up the chain, it became less and less of a priority. I've seen this situation a million times - it's the Army system. Ask just about any WF veteran and they will back me up.
I wasn't blaming Obama for this. I'm just pointing out that this is yet another example of the double standard in the media that gives the Obamassiah a pass where Bush would've been slow roasted. It is kind of interesting Starguard would be casting aspersions on his hero like this, though.
The difference as I see it is that Bush supported the troops and did not say he was going to end the war, but Obama did say he was going to end the war first thing and did not.
2059? Not if I get there first.......let's race! BTW as for Pres. Obama "ending the war" I don't think anyone would believe that for one second. Did he even say this? I think he talked about troop reductions and going into Pakistan. I'm not an Obama fan, so I'm not going to try to quote him.
Afghanistan is ungovernable and a goldmine for any criminal element willing to set up shop there. Until we talk seriously about legalizing opiates, all positions in Afghanistan except for "druglord" will be worthless.
You'd think the Bush Admin would have considered that before charging in there The British tried invading them THREE TIMES and got served... The Ruskies tried for over a decade and got served... We've been there for almost a decade now and STILL havent caught "Uncle Benny" nor stopped any of his henchmen.. I don't think anyone has ever invaded that country and left with more than a margin of success!
Well, that sucks, but at least they took 150 of those fuckers with them. Yeah, I realize that body count doesn't matter as much in a conflict like this, but you take what you can get, right?
If I am not mistaken, Obama called for an end to the Iraq war, and in that he appears to be succeeding. Concerning Afghanistan, he has expressed a desire to focus America's anti-terror efforts there, which would mean sending more resources and forces into battling the Taliban and Al-Qaida.
On Afghanistan, he's expressed a desire to have it both ways. While sending more troops, he's pretty well restricted their activities AND set a deadline for their withdrawal. On top of that, HOW DARE YOU use the T-word in reference to our enemies? Didn't you know Obama had scrapped the war on terror in favor of 'Overseas Contingency Operation'?
Yes, that's correct...and don't forget "terrorist attacks" are now Man Caused Disasters. Perhaps his presidency could be called a Voter Caused Disaster! Anyway, like I said Obama's war policies aren't the cause of bad military procedural policies on a single Operating Base....that could have been taken care of at a much lower level, but sadly was not, due to internal Army politics. We've all heard Generals (and other leaders) state "I'm a soldier, not a politician" but it's just not that "cut + dried" as that. The Army itself is extremely political and gets more + more so as you go up the chain.
Well, we all knew it wasn't Obama's fault. It just had to be the voters' fault. That's true of the military, in general, isn't it? Actually, I think it's probably true of people in general. The higher up a big, powerful organization one gets, the more caught up in the "game" people tend to get.
Seems that way, since everyone's afraid of ruffling the wrong feathers and tend to be a lot more concerned not only with keeping their job, but advancing as quickly as possible.
Like the old saying in the Air Force. "The higher you go up the flag pole, the more people can see your ass".
