Caprica

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  1. EzriTorres

    EzriTorres Probably a Dual

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    Anyone else enjoying watching this?

    I try to actually SIT and watch it faithfully but still because inevitably get called away so it gets confusing at times.
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    shootER Insubordinate...and churlish Administrator

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    There's already a thread on it here.


    Personally, I'm about four episodes behind at this point (though they're still in my DVR).
  3. EzriTorres

    EzriTorres Probably a Dual

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    Ooops missed it. I was looking for something glaringly obvious in the title.
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  4. Subspace

    Subspace comfy in a chair

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    Caprica is about building and resolving tension. Unfortunately nowadays people want BANG-POW resolved in a 30 second soundbite, as opposed to waiting for things to take time and resolve themselves. Last episode, the scene with the dog... Great tension, when she fired, my wife gasped.
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  5. EzriTorres

    EzriTorres Probably a Dual

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    I missed the last episode dangit! and forgot that it was on in the morning again. Better remember its on tomorrow night so I can watch it before the season ender on Sunday.
  6. MoulinRouge

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    I'd have freaked if she'd killed the dog. You can't kill Ceasar. He looks like my dog. :(
  7. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I personally thought it was kind of a cop-out when it was revealed later that she knew it was loaded with blanks by "the robot's" perception of the weapon's weight. I'm still waiting for chickie chickie to go full-on Lizzie Borden with that Cylon body.
  8. PGT

    PGT Fuck the fuck off

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    Did she not say something about only realising afterwards that she was subconsciously aware of it? Or am I making that up?
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    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I thought she said somethink along the lines of "the robot knew immediately that the weight was off". But I only watch these things once and then delete them from my DVR, and I'm never sober on Friday nights, so :shrug:
  10. Dayton Kitchens

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    Lord I hate this damn show so very much.
  11. Baba

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    Zoe greystone has nice legs.
  12. MoulinRouge

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    Nice to be back, Aquehonga. :) Not really back, though. These 60 hour work weeks are profitable, but time consuming. You do what you have to, though. Caprica rules. Especially last night. Is ZoeA dead now? Will there be ZoeB and C and D and so on created by Vergis if he gets his hand on whats left of the prototype? Each one angrier than the last, I'm sure.

    I'll think it's a cop out if Amanda lives. She stepped off that bridge railing. Clarice couldn't have gotten there in time. That will send Daniel even more over the edge. He could always create an avatar if they want to keep the actress.
  13. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    So quit watching it, goober! :lol:
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I hate car accidents as well but I have difficulty turning away.

    That said, I'm always curious as to what people are blabbering about.

    Finally, spring break was this week so I'm easily bored.
  15. Parallaxis

    Parallaxis Reformed Troll - Mostly

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    Really people?

    I see nothing interesting in this show. Nothing.

    I keep tuning in waiting for something interesting to happen, But nothing ever does.

    I don't get these comments about how Caprica is such a great show. What exactly do you people see in this show. I'm watching it trying to figure out the appeal, but... I just don't get it.

    You want to know how boring and bland I think it is? I actually get excited knowing a Warehouse 13 repeat comes on next. Warehouse 13 people! Warehouse 13! Let that sink in. Caprica actually makes me wish I was watching Warehouse 13 instead.

    I think this may be SyFy's new business plan, to keep making each show worse than the one that came before - to the point where you finally say, "I wonder when that OctoSharkPossom movie comes back on, it wasn't that bad."
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  16. MoulinRouge

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    Watching the story unfold of how the cylons came to be what they are is infinitely fascinating to me.
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    Oh yeah!

    As opposed to the original Battlestar: Galactica where the Cylons were alien robots who had destroyed their own creators (or simply cyborgs if you read the novels and go with Larson's original concept)..............we get Cylons who were created because a wealthy guy who couldn't let his cult following daughter go decides to create a VR avatar that ends up in his military robot.

    That is as stupid as StarGate SG:1 having the replicators being the creation of a man to keep his android daughter company.

    This is what I hate about modern science fiction.

    Everything is small.

    Small ideas. Small people with small ideas and small motivations being the prime movers behind events.

    There are no larger than life characters anymore doing things that are really big.

    Everything has been dragged down to the soap opera level of everything being motivated by sex and money.

    Sure, that is easy to understand by the audience not interested in thinking.

    And I'm certain that the popular praise nuBattlestar: Galactica gets in the media is part of this. Critics can understand the shows because it is something they are accustomed to.

    I'm certain it is easier for the writers to write and easier for actors to understand and get into the characters.

    But science fiction has lost something in my opinion.
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    Modern television reflects reality more than it once did.

    Consider:

    The original Battlestar Galactica had a plotline which involved the survivors experiencing little to no grief about the destruction of their homeworlds and, in fact, wishing to stop and enjoy the celebratory atmosphere of Carillon even before the fires on their homeworlds were extinguished.

    This is unrealistic in the extreme. America still has not recovered from 9/11. What happened to the Colonies was a million times worse.

    The current Galactica universe is far more realistic in dealing with human motivations. Everything in real life is driven by lust (for sex, for power, for money) or by religious fanaticism.

    When you consider that science fiction has always served to warn the audience about the possible consequences of actions, then it is fitting for the recent iteration of Battlestar Galactica and Caprica to show the potential consequences of technology run amok or religious fanaticism.
  19. Dayton Kitchens

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    America also at the time of 9/11 had not been fighting a major war for 1,000 years.

    I've never understood the derision that many so called fans have for the "casino planet" in the original Battlestar: Galactica pilot.

    For one thing in regards to grief, the focus on the original Battlestar: Galactica was almost exclusively on military personnel.

    They had been fighting a war that had lasted all their lives and probably expected it to last long after they died.

    So naturally, their reactions to the destruction of the colonies was not as grief laden as it would be for civilians.

    That said, given the alternative between an apparently endless journey looking for a mythical planet (Earth) under starvation conditions and the opportunity to enjoy plenty of food and plenty on Carrillon, I'm not surprised that many would see Carrillon as a godsend.

    And I might add that although the characters in Battlestar: Galactica are "human" they are supposed to be from other planets and one would imply other cultures.

    The nuBattlestar: Galactica and Caprica treats its characters as fundamentally NO DIFFERENT than run of the mill 21rst century humans (Americans in particular).

    One would at least expect some differences beyond the occasional different terms and modestly different technology.
  20. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Man's desire to create life without bothering to consider the consequences is a running theme in Western literature, going back through Mary Shelley's Frankenstein to the golem, an "unshaped form" first used to describe Adam in the Talmud, but subsequently used through the Old Testament to describe artificial monsters.

    Hardly "small."

    And, P.S., sex and money - or the desire for the power to obtain them - are what drive most human activity. 1Tim. 6-10 :shrug:
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    Zoe created her child, ZoeA, to serve some purpose on Geminon. She had childish notions that the creation of ZoeA would somehow "change things" and push people towards a monotheistic belief system. She never stopped to think about ZoeA as a being in and of herself, how she might feel about her situation and not having any memories truly her own. She created a "copy." Daniel only wanted to salve his own grief, so he stole ZoeA out of the virtual world and created TamaraA without a second thought to leaving her alone in the V world. He assumed she was gone and didn't give a second thought to her consciousness being left alone in a dark room, not knowing where or what she was.

    Now Daniel or Tomas Vergis will create more and copies of these two lives with no regard that they are conscious beings who have Zoe Graystone's and Tamara Adams' memories but none of their life experience so they can't relate to anything. They are children. ZoeA is a little child who's killed someone she cared about. She's adrift and completely lost.

    They're heading head long off of a cliff and they don't know it. That's what fascinates. You can't recreate your lost loved ones. You don't have power over life and death itself. This society will pay the ultimate price for the sins of a few.
  22. Muad Dib

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    One of the things I like best about RDM's work is that each episode is like a chapter of a book. It furthers the story without standing on its own.

    I like this series and I liked NuBSG.

    But I really want to see some space battles.
  23. MoulinRouge

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    Why do you need space battles? There's no war. Not yet.
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    To me, a science fiction series without space battles is largely a waste of time.

    I don't turn on science fiction to see stuff I can see on "Days of Our Lives" or "CSI".

    I turn on science fiction to see kick ass stuff I can't see anywhere else.

    You don't get that on "Caprica".

    So until one of the "Law & Order" series start showing the occasional dogfight between spaceplanes.......

    ....I want to see spacebattles in science fiction.
  25. Parallaxis

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    I think its funny that when you ask someone what they like about Caprica they bring up another show, BSG, instead.
  26. MoulinRouge

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    Science fiction isn't only about space. It's about ideas and new technology. You can get battles in war movies.
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  27. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    I like Caprica. Watched every episode I did. :yoda:

    I just like space battles too.
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    Fair enough.
  29. Volpone

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    Fuck space battles. I used to like space battles too. Then I turned 19.
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  30. Dayton Kitchens

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    Not in space.

    At least in those war movies I've observed.

    And while I acknowledge that "science fiction isn't only about space", the kinds that I like to watch every week are.

    Sure, I'll watch the occasional science fiction movie that doesn't involve space like "I' Robot" or "Gattaca".

    But for something to watch regularly, I want space.