The Danger of Openly Gay Servicemen...

Right, Skin forgot -- the principles of warfare can only be known to military personnel and not, for example, to someone who was raised in a military family and knows good and goddamned well the mindset of the people who raised him. Because, y'know, there's no such thing as deduction. You must be making gargamet real proud with posts like that.

My vote's for the The USS Lollipop. At least it's a good ship.

Or the good ship Venus.

Cookie for whoever gets the reference.

Allow me to clarify my position. Yes, we must behave in a way that promotes PC, but not neccessarily believe in it.

But not all military people think alike. But as long as you check the blocks accordingly nobody is the wiser. The military knows all their classes are bullshit, but they have to cover their asses.

There is no "collective mindset" when people are off duty - and there shouldn't be. On the job we must be cohesive to keep ourselves alive.
Off duty everyone gravitates to whover/wherever they feel comfortable.

That's one reason I HATE when people say "morale is low/high." Just because one soldier is discouraged doesn't mean everyone is, and vice-versa. My needs and wants/attitudes as a 40 year old were way, way different than a 20 year old.

But at the end of the day most military people don't really give a shit about gays one way or the other. And if they don't like them just because they are gay, they have to suck it up (keep it clean) and at least get along with them. Most military people want to stay out of trouble....and getting into fights does not keep you out of trouble.

Radar's secret wasn't that he was gay, it was that he was secretly an amputee!

I think Radar turned his teddy bear into a Fleshlight of sorts.
I'm sure it's in the deleted scenes somewhere.

And gay sailors and soldiers have been killing our enemies with vigor alongside straight sailors and soldiers for a long time now. Elimination of DADT doesn't change that. DADT going away also doesn't change the many regulations against fraternization, sexual harassment, etc. that are present in the system already...

No, skin forgot, or perhaps never knew, that basing an assumption on a very small sample ("My parents always said...") makes him look foolish, particularly since he only digs what his parents' generation has to say when it agrees with him.

But what can you expect from a Smurf lover?

Skin's posts do, however, serve as comic relief in a thread possibly intended to be ironic (you never can tell with Volpone), but where posts like #35 and #37 offer a Real Life perspective.,

I thought it was the S.S. Manhandler?

Skin is presuming that his deduction is correct based on something other than the corn and donut filled opinion he shat out this morning?
How's the flying lesson going Bonzo?

I think the only threat to openly gay servicemen will be people like EP. I also do not think that the majority of the armed forces are like EP. I think the EP's of the service at this point are the minority.

FTFY.

God, I hope so!

If they are the majority, then I think either voluntary retirement is in order for those members, or dishonorable discharges for going against the will of the civilians that are ultimately in charge of the military.

Oh, now we can't discriminate, y'know. We can't discriminate in the orientation of military personnel, no matter how little confidence we feel in their ability; we can't discriminate in civil service members, no matter how incompetent they prove themselves to be; we can't discriminate in those who represent us in government, no matter how little they actually represent us. We must, must, must be blind to our own interests. Remember, we are only the serfs, the plebes, the peasants. How dare we expect to be represented by those who share and will therefore defend our values.

Don't know what you're driving at, skin.
The ONLY thing that anyone should be doing with any person is deciding if they can do the job. Supposed to be a dishwasher? How clean are the dishes? Supposed to be a dog walker? How well are the dogs walked? Supposed to be a military man/woman? How well are they performing the tasks of a military man/woman?
If they aren't cleaning, walking, or doing their tasks, then take them to task or fire them.

Absolutely right, Liz, and to the task at hand, Skin says (as he's said before) so long as they can get the job done without requiring accommodation special only to them, who gives a shit?

But as far as throwing the "bigot" card around, the card is being thrown by people who are bigoted themselves, and that's hypocrisy.

ADDENDUM: This is why Skin doesn't give a damn about being called 'prejudiced' or a bigot. The application of those words has been reduced to the level of political coercion, and Skin won't bend to coercion.