Fox News and the Death Penalty are obviously racist!

I find all of it abhorant behavior.

Killing for pleasure is not comparable to killing for food.

And you go on and try to kill my dog for food.

Well, the one thing Michael Vick, killing dogs has in common with that cop who shot the family golden retriever is that at no point was any human harmed in any way prior to the deaths of said dogs.

Of course like I said, Vick lost his job and went to prison while the cop looks like he'll be getting off scott free. And also like I said, Vick's dogs where his to do with as he saw fit while the dog the cop shot was just minding his own business on his master's property.

I have no doubt that in a SHTF scenario, if food was so scarce...that I'd be tempted to hunt down UA's rat dog to feed my family. But seeing as his rodent-canine has about as much meat on it as your average sparrow, I'm guessing we'd all be about dead anyway, if it was the only thing left to much on...

False.

False.

If your dog is anything like mine, there isn't much food there.

On the plus side, you'd have my own pasty corpse to munch through first, since you'll be eating my dog over my dead body.

That's a moose compared to my dog. He weighs about 7lbs.

The thought of munching on UA's dead body made me lose my appitite. :santa_grin:

Too damned bad for you then, since he did what the state ordered in terms of punishment. I guess you'll have to live with that lack of satisfaction sticking in your craw like a bad burrito.

You can't go back and change the laws/punishments retroactively. There's this thing called ex post facto...

I didn't say you'd give them a pass, I said you supported harsher penalities for killing dogs than killing humans. Here's the logic I used to draw that conclusion:
1) you seem to support Tucker Carlson's view that Vick should have been executed for killing dogs
2) at very least, you've said in this thread that people who kill dogs shouldn't be let out of prison
3) Currently, most convicted murderers DO NOT receive the Death Penalty
4) While I don't have current statistics, I'd wager that many, if not most convicted murderers DO NOT receive Life in prison either, meaning they eventually get out of prison.
5) Thus, based on the above, you support harsher penalties for killing dogs than killing humans. QED.

No, I believe I said I value dogs more highly than humans. And I do. They're almost always better people than human beings. Michael Vick being a perfect example.

So now I have to comment on every other detail of the judicial and penal system in order to make it consistent witht his one? Kiss my ass. Let's try not attributing any sentiments to me if I don't state them outright.

The monetary exchange was in addition to being in jail for a significant amount of time as well as having a world of crap to put up with even after he's done with the legal requirements for his crime.

Your point about serial killers may/may not be true but the converse is not necessarily true. Not all animal abusers are serial killers so, "What's your point?" other than a desperate grab for an emotional plea?

I think you're letting your emotions cloud your judgment on this one.

I'm more pissed at the NFL for letting that scumbag play again. He should never have been allowed to wear an NFL uniform ever again.

Oh, and yes dogs > people

^ I think you should probably make your views known by boycotting the U.S. from a bunker in North Korea. That'll show us.

In the church I was raised in and still support, a person is not obligated to forgive someone unless they ask you for forgiveness first.

Forgiveness is not just something you throw around to make you feel good about yourself.

Now, I know executing someone for killing animals is ridiculous.

But I do think two years in prison is only a slap on the wrist. Five years would've been much more reasonable.

But I do think that one reason he got only two years for such a blatant (and inexcusable crime, it isn't like he needed any money) crime was that no one wanted his pro football career to be permanently ruined.

And to me that is inexcusable.

Then go to a kennel and fucking off yourself. Anyone who puts another species before his own is a traitor. People whose lives have actually been saved by a lower life form get a pass on grounds of sentimentalism, but unless you can tell us that actually happened to you, you're just a worthless misanthrope, and the feeling is mutual.

...unless, of course, that person is a police officer. Then I guess it is tough luck for Boomer.

Couldn't resist.

You've been here how long and you thought we didn't know that already?

Thanks, Dayton. You've made probably the best statement against Vick in this thread.

I disagree about the severity of the prison sentence. In comparison to other crimes, it's actually a pretty lengthy term. In addition, as I've said, for a first offender, it's extremely long.

As far as him getting let off with a slap on the wrist because of his football career, I think it was precisely because he was a football player that he got the sentence he did. A first offender who flipped burgers for a living probably wouldn't have gone to jail at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsIRCTZSO8o&feature=related

Fuck your mother, cowardly trolling shitstain.

By what standard do you make that judgement, other than that you a personal fan of the species of animal involved in his crime?

I usually like Tucker, but ever since he stopped using bow-ties he has gone a bit out there.

Donte Stallworth from the Baltimore Ravens killed a human and is allowed to play in the NFL (Manslaughter conviction) and he only got 30 days in jail. So looking at that standard, Vick's return after serving his prison sentence is reasonable. No one cared last year when Vick was on the bench, but of course his exceptional play this season (after Kolb's injury and subsequent benching) has made it a talking point.

On a side note, he was a great waiver wire pick for me this season in my fantasy football league.

OK, I've listened to three of those, and I haven't laughed once.

This one is probably more appropriate to UA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzU9FgNTYrU&feature=related