Obama floats a new VP idea for 2012

Dump the loser

Never said Mr. Obama wasn't a sharp politician and this move could tighten up the ticket considerably. Plus, it would follow his long-running policy of throwing liabilities under the bus.

Haha. You think Obama has trouble getting Biden to shut his gaffe hole now...

IDK... the last time someone spoke of dumping a VP, they got a bullet. I am quite certain, Johnson had SOMETHING to do with Oswald.

From the article, I think the reverse would be better. Dump Obama and keep Biden!

Oh, and yes, I know. Technically this isn't Obama or his campaign floating this idea so the thread title isn't 100% verifiable. But either a) they're testing the waters by leaking the idea or b) it's their idea now and the writer's been hired because he's smarter than anyone Obama's got on staff.

I think Cuomo would be a fool to accept. Right now there's probably no hotter star in the Democrat party - including Obama - than Cuomo.

I say this VERY advisedly, sure that there's a lot of shit I don't know about, but at this point I'd actually consider voting for him if the GOP nominated some stiff in 2016.

I guess the implication here is that Belshazzar would dump all those distracting presidential responsibilities on the more competent Cuomo. Why not cut out the middle man?

Dumping a VP would probably generate more bad publicity than it's worth, unless Biden both (a) dropped off the ticket willingly, and (b) had a plausible personal reason for doing so.

"Personal reasons." "Spend more time with my family."

Etc etc

If the GOP leadership had any savvy at all, they'd take one look at the herd of losers already flailing their arms in hopes of getting attention and work a deal with some Democrat like Cuomo and get him on the ticket against Obama.

He would be far less destructive a President than Obama, and bearing in mind most Republicans are wired into the "anyone but" phenomenon (which worked so well for Barry in '08), Cuomo (or someone like him) might actually have a chance.

Which would be transparent bullshit and everyone would know it. He'd have to have a heart attack or get diagnosed with cancer for it to work.

Heart attacks weren't enough to get Cheney off the ticket.

Well, Cheny's The Lord Of Wickedness, that's a special case.

You gotta run him through with a sharpened telephone pole strapped to a rocket sled, with the tears of Dan Ackroyd and Harold Ramis in the fuel mix to end that bastard.

Wouldn't surprise me, but in the end it'd do more harm than good I think.

I'd much rather see him run against Obama if he's going to get involved.

Rocks are smarter than anybody he's got on staff.

And far less socialist.

Don't say that! You'll get Hillary to resign early and jump in the ring. That is, if she isn't planning secretly to do so anyway. She's already said more than one disparaging thing against her boss, and she's not stupid- she knew what she was saying. (Hillary is many things / "stupid" isn't one of them)

Surgery to finally pull that foot and whole leg out of his mouth?!

Beck:
Frankly I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather have Hillary running.

Besides, I'd like to see the first first husband and what kinds of things he'd be involved in.

Maybe something wholesome like recruiting that new pole dancing for athletics thing going on.

sounds like the republicans want the New York governorship real bad...

Well, yeah. Let's go Occam's razor, though. The simplest thing is to believe they want the governorship but that Obama really, really wants to get rid of Biden because he needs something to boost his diminishing chances.

As much as it saddens me to say it, Biden is the most competent half of that ticket.

I actually think that as fruit loopy as Joe Biden may be, he is NOT a problem. We hardly ever hear from the guy. Love him, or hate him, he represents the poor people with problems in that administration, and uses the "six pack plan" to get him out of whatever mess he's in (people relate to that, especially now). :keg: Obama's real Achilles's Heel is himself. Plenty of Moderate Democrats could challenge him on his second term and have a good chance of winning, and Barack and Chewie would head back to Illinois and from there to wherever the hell they want to live. My guess would be Cuba, but then Chewie wouldn't be able to have access to all those fine things she seems to like so well.

And while this may shock Cassandra like an electric eel, if Hillary were to run, and the pugs don't run Paul, I'd vote Hillary. Every other GOP contender is a fucking joke. I'll vote for my local reps and ballot initiatives, but otherwise, I'm just writing in Queen Elizabeth for president, just so there aren't any blanks.

If you're going to use Occam's Razor use it on the person putting for the proposition: in this case a Republican insider.

The Democrats aren't saying anything of the sort that I've heard, so how can you analyze a statement they're not making?

Sometimes there's more than one part to an answer, yaknow? It doesn't have to be one or the other. And having seen the wheeling and dealing done in politics, floating an idea like this is certainly very probable.

Unless you're saying that it can't be happening because you hadn't heard it before the Obama White House acted on it...

Good heavens, no. Political strategizing is just like war: all sorts of contingencies are discussed (or should be). I'm only talking about this one instance where a republican was giving advice to the democrats. Discussing his motives is fair game. However, you seem to be using that statement from a republican as evidence that the democrats are seriously contemplating such a switch. I don't know any more about what the democrats are thinking along those lines than the republicans. However, using a statement from a republican as some sort of evidence that the democrats are thinking a certain way strikes me as a stretch.

Oh, I see. You're forgetting that he's joining with a Democrat in making this announcement, though.

Given that there are a lot of RINOs out there and the even higher probability that the two of them together are just teaming up to make a big splash for themselves, I think we both may be forgetting the angle that they're just out to make a buck here.

Dumping Biden does make a darned good story, though. I'd think the Obama team couldn't help but have it in the back of their minds if their fortunes don't turn around quickly.

I would vote for a Satan/Cthulhu ticket before I'd vote for Hillary. Obama is doing what he's doing largely because he has no real-world experience and is relying on the advice of leftist imbeciles. Hillary has an actual agenda and is competent to carry it out.

I have no reason to believe Willie Brown knows any more about this issue than either one of us.

I, for one, welcome our Octopus Overlords.

(fixed the ticket order)

Here, let me help with the Hillary hate.

Hillary Clinton is a bitch. A big ol’ bitchy bitch. And a cunt. A “big fucking whore.” Fortunately, you can “call a woman anything.” She’s “Nurse Ratched.” She’ll castrate you if she gets a chance. She would like that. She’s a “She-Devil.” She’s a madam, and her daughter’s a whore. She’s frigid, and she can’t give head. She’s a “She-Devil.” A lesbian. A nag. When things get tough, she cries like a big dumb GIRL. In fact, she’s just that — a “little girl.” In FACT, she wants to “cry her way to the White House.” To be, ahem, “Crybaby-in-Chief.” That proves that she’s not tough enough. But she’s also not feminine enough. She’s “screechy.” She’s an “aging, resentful female.” She’s “Sister Frigidaire.” She really ought to quit running for President and stick to housework. She basically spent her entire times as First Lady going to tea parties. She’s a monster who just won’t die. In fact, she really should just die. You can buy a urinal target with her face on it to express what you really think of her. OMG she’s got claws! She’s crazy. In fact, she’s a lunatic. She’s petty and vindictive and entitled. She’s a washed-up old hag.

She’s “everybody’s first wife standing outside probate court.” She’s a “scolding mother.” She’s shrill… shrill… shrill. She can’t take it when people are mean to her. She’s a “hellish housewife.” She’s Tanya Harding. She CAN’T be President, what with the mood swings and the menses.Any woman who votes for her is voting with her vagina, not her brain. Women only like Hillary because she’s a fellow Vagina-American. And because they vote with their feelings. Frankly, anyone who still thinks we need “feminine role models” should get over it and move on, already. Oh, and men who support her are castratos in the eunuch chorus. You shouldn’t make her President because she wants it too much. She’s totally just banking on support from ugly old feminists. And she looooves to “play the victim.” She cackles! And cackles. And cackles. It’s like she’s a witch or something! She’s definitely“witchy.” And now you can buy her cackle as your ring tone. Her voice, too, is “grating”—like “fingernails on a blackboard” to “some men.” She’s hiding behind her gender. She isn’t a “convincing mom” because she’s too strident. She never did anything on her own. Her husband keeps her on a leash. She hates men. Her campaign is a “catfight.” She makes people want to kill themselves, is like a “domineering mother,” and is cold. And OMG she has boobies! All of which are reasons to hate her. (And boy, could I go on.)