20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners.

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  1. Dinner

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    Ouch! That has to hurt. I thought I'd see what our local sufferers of Obama derangement syndrome thought about this poll commissioned by a right wing conservative group. It might be time for you guys to hit the panic button. :terrorist911:


    http://www.politicususa.com/en/republicans-support-obama


    Before anyone says it, yes, that is a left wing partisan site but they're reporting about a poll paid for by World Nut Daily so hopefully people believe the source of the polling data.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    The truly hard core will dismiss the report while saying that the REAL problem is that the Republican party isn't conservative enough.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Don't they always?
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Future Johnson voters!!!!!
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    I bet there's no overlap between the 19% from Paul and the 20+% from everyone else.

    I also strongly suspect that while Paul will pull away disaffected Democrats, none of the other Republicans would.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    I'm willing to bet you are dead right about that.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    "The campaign of 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has scored a major coup with the hiring on of heavyweight GOP pollster Fritz Wenzel, and his polling firm Wenzel Strategies to run its polling operations."

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/06/28/ron-paul-campaign-scoops-up-major-gop-pollster/

    Take from that what you will......

    Would have been nice of World Nut Daily to put that in their article. Can't really blame the liberal blog because no doubt he was giddy over the prospect of 20% of Republicans supporting Obama.

    If you vote Obama you're not a Republican or a Libertarian or a Conservative. You're a fucking moron.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Given the reaction, though, I doubt it'll dawn on them that it's because the candidates they're putting up all suck.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Weird, why wouldn't they just vote Romney? He's basically the white Obama but with business experience, right?
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    This poll is an attack on Romney. A slick one but still an attack.

    The poll was done by a guy who currently works for Ron Paul. Conveniently Ron Paul does the best against Obama.

    I would not believe in any poll conducted by anyone who gets a paycheck from a candidate.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    True, but I'm wondering how this poll helps Rand Paul? There are some disaffected democrats, progressives but I don't see them jumping on the Rand Paul bandwagon, certainly not 20% of them.

    This poll, even if funded by a GOP candidate, just makes them all look bad. Which is basically the situation that the GOP has right now.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    On the other hand, how many Democrats are going to abandon Obama in November? Where's that poll?
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    I really doubt the 20% figure. That may be what people are saying now, but when it comes down to it, I think they're more likely to hold their nose and vote Romney (assuming he makes it) or not vote at all. Having said that in a close election, it wouldn't take a very large percentage of crossover voters to make the difference. Right now, I think there will be a lot more disaffected Republicans voting democrat than vice versa. No links...just opinion.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Talking smack about a poll in February?

    Hmmmm.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    :unsure: How did Rand Paul get drug into this?

    :wtf: He has nothing to do with it.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    None of these polls have any meaning. When a candidate is chosen and it's closer to the election these polls are useful. The candidates positions will change and solidify once the nominee is chosen, the economic and political realities will change. This is all :bullshit:

    A while ago polls showed Gingrich beating Obama. They're all a waste of time and money this early in the game.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    :flow:

    All white people look alike.

    :flow2:

    :ramen:

    I love saying that at work when someone is blaming me for something I had no part in.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    You have a point. It's still a long way to November.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    A total non-story. If Democrat support was holding solid for Obama, that many independents were positively impressed with Obama's record, and 20% of Republicans were intending to vote Obama, polls would show him with at least 60 to 65% of intentions to vote. But they don't, not even close.

    It's well-known, to anyone who has paid attention to the history of American politics since the war, that a candidate running against an incumbent doesn't have high numbers until he officially has the nomination, at which point all the party faithful "hold their nose and get in line."

    Romney will get the Republican nomination, and there is no possible way that 20% of Republicans will vote for Obama rather than vote for him. He will probably actually give Obama a run for his money, unless the economy straightens up seriously between now and then.

    Little more than that can be said before about September at the earliest, when polls begin to have some meaning.

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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    We shall see.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Say what you will about Santorum, at least you know where he stands on things. And even in California the majority of voters agrees with his values.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    If Santorum wins the nomination and someone puts a gun to my head and forces me to vote, then Obama would be an easy choice. Santorum is the worst of all worlds.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    Most Californians are not anti gay and in fact now support gay marriage.
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    I doubt that most California women are interested in going back to the days of "barefoot and pregnant".
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    Re: 20% of Republicans say they'd vote for Obama before any of the Republican frontrunners

    In fact 63% of Americans supported the President's stand on women's access to contraception. That just makes his (yet another) spineless cave to Republican nonsense that much more infuriating.

    Either way Republicans just insured they're going to lose the female vote which means they're not going to be winning any national elections this cycle.