Can one be Ayn Rand follower and Catholic like Ryan?

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  1. Baba

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    Not so much, no. :diacanu:
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    Gotta disagree. If the word of the pope is the word of god and the last two popes have been perfect Randroids but for their theism, then yeah, it's possible.
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    Nothing cracks me up like California tan and blonde pseudo-Jesus pics.

    Heck, Ayn looks manlier in that side-by-side.
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    We new she had some sex issues probably,
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    No. Pure, raw Objectivism is diametrically opposed to Biblical Christianity. The former exalts the individual as supreme in all instances. The latter, the individual is always subservient and aiming to give Him the honor and glory.

    But, there are some elements that can be applied (IE: freedom of the individual).
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    Let's see, Ayn Rand was an atheist, an advocate of acting on a basis of selfish personal interests, a discarder of conventional morality in all things including personal relationships, and a critic when it came to the value of altruism and charitable action.

    So much for Jesus...
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    Who said the catholic church has anything at all to do with the biblical character of Jesus?

    The catholic church is about hierarchical power tripping elderly white men peering into women's vaginas and boy's pants, having paranoid delusions that the commies are out to get them, and holding that their word should be treated as infallible because of shut up that's why. Substantively the catholic church is almost entirely Randian these days, but for god. And as for god, the purpose of god in the catholic church is to lend moral authority to the notion of papal infallibility, and belief in the infallibility of mortal persons posing as prophets is the central tenet of Randian "philosophy." Rand rejected god because her understanding of god ran contrary to her own infallibility, but so long as you accept both Rand and the pope as infallible, catholic theism is perfectly compatible with Randian "objectivism."
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    Taking that a step further, I think it is safe to say that Ryan is far and away removed from being an objectivist, let alone libertarian.
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    She's a sociopath like dexter or a Ferengi.
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