Pledge of Allegiance

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Ancalagon, Feb 6, 2013.

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Should the Pledge be recited in Public Schools.

  1. I am perfectly fine with the Pledge being recited before Public School classes start.

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  2. I have issues with the Pledge being recited before Public School classes start.

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  3. I have no opinion/I am not an American/I have another opinion (please explain in comments).

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    I find it amusing when people denounce something liked the Pledge as "brainwashing","indoctrination", or "creating obedient little sheep" as some of the real dickheads here and elsewhere like to claim.

    Anyone seriously claiming that

    1) Has never taught school
    2) Doesn't have children
    3) Has never worked with children or teenagers.

    American youth are just about the most UNINDOCTRINATED and questioning of authority as any in the world. Hands down. If you can find evidence of young people in other nations who are MORE questioning of authority than Americans then be my guest.

    And remember, the "rebellious youth" of the 1960s and 1970s were youth who had been brought up in a system that featured not only the Pledge of Allegience but school prayer regularly as well.
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  2. Grout

    Grout Probably a Dual

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    under God.. Allah or an awning.. you're just stupid.. really.. now we are Nazis? What an ass.. you continue to amaze...
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  3. Amaris

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    That's a historical image. It's real. Before WWII, that was the posture taken when reciting the pledge of allegiance here in the U.S.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

    History. You should learn it.
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  4. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    In that case, the Nazi style salute was BEFORE "under God" was added to the pledge. Which would you rather have?
  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Sorry, neither.
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Wish they'd tought that bit of history in oh...where could you do that sort of thing...oh, yeah, SCHOOL!!
    :soma:

    Cuz, then, I would have outright refused for the whole 12 years, instead of figuring out in HS to pretend to be late, but a minute short of "tardy", during pledge time.
  7. Amaris

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    Neither. I do not believe in god, and I do not pledge my allegiance to a non-existent entity that supposedly protects and oversees the development of the United States. I also don't salute objects, or metaphors, that demand my allegiance.

    That's what you get for going to school.


    Yeah.
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  8. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    This, along with your previous statement that our flag is 'just a damn rag', is exactly why you had no business wearing the uniform of our military.

    All that was for you was a quick meal ticket out of Alabama, wasn't it, country boy?
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  9. Dayton Kitchens

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    Why?
  10. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!!!!
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Did you serve?
  12. Amaris

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    At least he served. What did you do other than go bald and look for sexual favors from gay, liberal men? :shrug:
  13. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Predictable parasite response.

    "Our military is a bunch of murdering psychopaths until we think they're useful in a debate with a evil right winger"

    I also have no respect for iOS. Is it mandatory for me to own a iOS device before I'm able to speak my opinion? Did you little boys run out of steam on the 2nd amendment issue and decided to focus on the 1st now?

    Get fucked.
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  14. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Do you really want to talk about seeking sexual favors from gay men, fag?

    Stick to your little girl ponies.

    :lol:
  15. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    SHUT UP AND SING!!!!!
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  16. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Don't you have some comic books that look like they were drawn by a 2nd grader to finish? I mean, that is your big ticket out of mama's basement, so, chop chop!

    :bailey:
  17. Amaris

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    Is that code? Is this the digital equivalent of tapping your foot under the bathroom stall? I'm not sure, because this is twice now that you've propositioned me for sex, only for you to panic and reply to the contrary when confronted. Quit sending mixed messages if you're not serious. You're going to break a good man's heart someday if you keep it up.

    You asked first, honey. It also doesn't help that your avatar is a bald man with a brown dick in his mouth.
  18. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    YOU HATE AMERICA!!!!!!
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  19. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    EDIT: To the fag in post #77 who plays with little girl toys.

    Holy shit, man. You're so gay.

    :lol:

    That's all you think about, isn't it? And you cockmasters are always so mad about being stereotyped.

    I can practically hear the lisp and swishiness as you type.

    "Honey"?!. Oh my fucking god.

    Sit down Ru Paul.
  20. Amaris

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    Actually, I have a bit of a southern drawl. What's sweet is that you called me cockmaster. I didn't know you had that much confidence in me! Don't worry, sweet lips, I won't let you down. I bet you smoke cigars all the time, so I imagine you're used to the taste and flavor of a big wet blunt sliding between your lips.
  21. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    You do understand that's Bruce Willis in the avatar, right?

    Dumbass.

    :jayzus:
  22. Amaris

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    Why would you have a picture of a balding man with a big, brown, wet cigar in his mouth? You don't have to dream, honey, you can make it a reality. I think it's kind of cute that you use a picture of your crush to represent you. I mean, look at him, all scruffy and manly, with that oblong object between his lips, as he sucks down on it, clenching it tight. I don't think you could voice your desires any louder than having that image right there.
  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yes, we all know that's Bruce Willis in the avatar, Sue. We also know why you've chosen him.
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  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Because, first of all, it's a false dichotomy. You don't need to choose between either, because you don't need either. You don't really need the pledge, unless you think it's got some magic way to evoke loyalty through the chanting of meaningless words.

    Because the words are meaningless to a child. At least if they're reciting the alphabet or the multiplication table, they're learning something they can use. Even "Itsy-Bitsy Spider" has more relevance to a child.

    So what's the point of the pledge, exactly?
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  25. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    After that little speech, I've come to the conclusion that you didn't just stumble your way into being an ass spelunker, you born for it. You're a thin layer of skin surrounding a vast sack of estrogen. The fact that people have pointed out that it is not normal for a grown man to be whacking off to My Little Ponies and playing with the toys is completely wasted on you because you have serious mental problems.

    You really need to man up once and go talk to someone about this.

    I'm being serious about this. Go talk to someone.
  26. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    We understand that he's the fantasy image you have for yourself, but Bruce isn't some whiny little bitch acting tough behind a keyboard.
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  27. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    The fact that you even perceive me as 'acting tough behind a keyboard' says alot more about you than it does me.
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  28. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    Says a man who obediently follows religion.....
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  29. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I perceive you as being stupid enough to think we don't see right through you.
  30. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    I don't give a fuck what you see. I don't even fucking know you.

    :jayzus: