Interfering with bullying is bad, okay?

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  1. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    I declare, just when I think Americans have absolutely cornered the market on stupid public-school policies and no one can ever top them, someone else will try to challenge the good old USA for the top spot!

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  2. Zombie

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    hehe....

    This is like the one where the kid tackled the student with the gun and they suspended him for tackling the kid!

    This country is fucked up beyond all belief.....

    I don't think we can save it. Let it burn down......
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  3. Sentinel

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    For all the times parents get in the teachers face when the kid is wrong...


    I would most definitely be in the teachers face in this case telling them my kid was right.


    The beaurocrats won't be happy until anything resembling a spine is completely bread out of the species.
  4. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    When a knife gets pulled the line is crossed from "bullying" to "brandishing/assault with a deadly weapon."

    Which makes the student's actions all the more admirable, and the school's response all the more baffling.

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  5. Diacanu

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    "Hannibal, you do not honor the human pecking order, you're always hurting the bullies".
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    I wonder if reading between the lines the school is more worried about the law suit if the hero was hurt?.
    or they are plain stupid.

    either way good on the kid for helping someone out
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  7. Clyde

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    I was wondering the same thing, the school can't exactly encourage a student to put themselves in harms way.
  8. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    As the bully stabs the victim, you just say "excuse me, but with all due respect, this may not be considered (in some circles, not accusing you per se)
    proper behavior. Perhaps you could could come by for dinner tonight, and we could discuss it further."

    Damn, how hard is that? :facts:

    Sadly, get used to this more and more folks, in every formerly sane nation.
    The whole idea is to take all personal choice and responsibility out of our daily lives, and let the authorities (local, state, national, world) handle things - for our own good, of course. You the individual are powerless - only The State can save us from ourselves.
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    Line up every school employee who contributed to the decision that it was better for the bully's victim to get knifed than for the bully to get tackled and disarmed.

    Punch every one of those sick fucks in the throat. One by one. Then fire them. Then make sure no one ever hires them again, for any job, ever.
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    It's Bush's fault. :bergman:
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  12. Black Dove

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    It's this type of thinking that's going to be the downfall of our society by pushing the idea that only the state can take care of you and save you. Do not try to think or take any action on your own, call the state and they will come to the rescue.


    Fuck that shit!!!!!
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  13. Zombie

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    And before anyone says it.....

    Canada and America are one country. It was a secret treaty during the cold war. We just pretend to be separate countries.

    ;)
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    School officials acting stupidly when common sense is called for is enough to piss off anyone, but it's nothing new.
  15. We Are Borg

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    Fucking Canadians, eh? :facepalm:
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    I should also point out that this happened the same week Canada's federal government announced a national anti-bullying strategy.

    :jayzus:
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  17. oldfella1962

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    A STRATEGY? A fucking strategy? :objection:

    If it doesn't involve bullies getting the ass kicking they are begging for and well deserve, it's feel-good bullshit to appease the rose-colored glasses wearing crowd.
  18. Ten Lubak

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    What the kid did was right but in a world with lawyers and insurance companies the outcome is something disgraceful like this.
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    This couldn't have happened in Canada...the bully would've used an icicle or a hockey stick on the victim if it happened there! :ramen:
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  20. Black Dove

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    It's El Chup's fault!

    :mob:
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    The thing is, the "hero" was only "reprimanded" . . . whatever that means. The bully was suspended.

    The hero did the right thing in intervening. You can quibble about pushing versus distracting versus trying to cool things down, but the victim could have been hurt badly before any adults got within arm's reach.
  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Lawsuits. Kid A stabs Kid B, criminal charges. Kid A brandishes a weapon at Kid B, Kid C intervenes and gets hurt...lawyers. :shrug:

    It's not right, but that's probably why.
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    Passivity, dependence, and timidity: these are the virtues the state wants to instill. Unempowered people are easier to manage.
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    Fire the school board.
  25. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Nice speech. One school's decision =/= "the State."

    No possibility that this might simply be an attempt to avoid lawsuits. :garamet:
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  26. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    A symptom of a larger pattern and not the first instance of this sort of thing. Remember the kid who got expelled because he saved his girlfriend's life by administering his rescue inhaler? This is the path that leads to telling women that are being raped to yell, "Fire!" rather than yelling "Help" or "Rape."

    It's a fine line to walk. You don't want to jump into a fight to "defend" someone only to find out the little lady was actually the aggressor. But, in cases like this, where the kid knew the whole story and acted, that sort of thing should be applauded. We'll applaud a man that puts his own safety on the line to rescue a person that has fallen on the subway tracks, but we discipline the kid that defended a student from a bully with a knife?

    It's primary goal may very well be an attempt to avoid a lawsuit, but it has a secondary effect of teaching our children that they'll be punished for acting.
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  27. tafkats

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    Can school boards be "fired," except by voters? I can't speak for Alberta, but ours in Michigan are elected.
  28. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    People in the education establishment don't form in a vacuum. They are trained in the same schools, they read the same books, they follow similar principles. Importantly, they are all part of a bureaucracy.
    Actually, that's probably one of the main drivers of silly policy. It's certainly driving the "no tolerance" rules which remove the burden of judgment (and, therefore, accountability) from officials.

    It is the nature of bureaucracy to limits its own risks by diffusing responsibility. It's just how it is. Policy like this is what emerges, and the consequence is that children in these institutions are dis-empowered and made passive by having to conform to it.
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  29. Baba

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    Give the kid a medal like on Arrested Development.
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