Dayton, how will they fix your Star Trek?

Almost right...get up...have little breakfast...check my email...see what stupid shit Dayton posted during the night.

You start threads specifically about me EC.

Unless I'm mistaken I start NONE about you.

Case closed......

just like your mind?

Do you find Emilia Clarke or Lena Heady attractive?

I don't know who Emilia Clarke is, but I'd hit Melinda Clarke like the fish of an angry dog. Lena Heady, too. Both of 'em at the same time if I had enough Gatorade on hand.

Emilia plays the blonde on game of trhones.

What gives you the authority to close cases anyway?

Are they lesbians?

Lesbians who work for Sony?

There is lesbians on game of thrones.

Of course, Dayton is hardly the only person out there to have a problem with JJ's frat boy Trek.

In fact, can we just stop calling it "Trek?" It isn't Trek. It's Star Wars dressed up like Trek. Star Trek was something completely different than what we're being given now.

Just got back from an alternate reality where DKTrek was made (pronounced decay-trek) - only go there as they've all 6 seasons of Firefly on Netflix, as well as the Oscar winning bio of President Presley 'Hail to [-]Chief[/-]King Baby!' (that Oscars ceremony was something, Bill Hicks never got asked back *sigh* and Bruce Campbell accepting his award as Sam Axe getup? Golden!)

Anyhoo, DKTrek got picked up instead of VOY, and after 6 episodes wasn't merely cancelled, but all stock was was dropped into a vat of molten plutonium, which was then cast into the shape of a giant dildo and sent into deepest space to go fuck the nearest black hole.

The actors have all seen their careers destroyed, and pretty much everyone involved have ended up as hobos or killed themselves.

Nowhere else in the multiverse touched it.

Reality has given it's verdict!

What gets me is that for THIRTY Years, it seems that the vast bulk of Star Trek fans openly looked down on Star Wars as being juvenile, simplistic, jingoistic, and shallow. (to list just some of the sentiments).

Now, throw in some good box office numbers and favorable reviews, and a number of so called "Star Trek" fans have embraced the "Warsified Star Trek".

Trek did Wars before Wars did.

Or did nobody else watch Plato's Stepchildren?

All that proves is that some nerds living in their mommas' basements needed some reason to look down on other nerds.

And to answer the question about how "deep" TOS is for myself, I've started watching the show on Netflix, and I have to say even the good episodes weren't all that deep...but then, when it was just a tv show and not a cult classic, it didn't need to be. And yanno, I still enjoyed it.

Fine.

If that is all you want to get out of it.

Yep. Can't beat space nazis, space cowboys, space hippies, space amoebas that eat entire solar systems, space gangsters. And who can forget "Brain,brain...What is brain?"

What the hell does that mean?

The one thing that TOS has going for it that none of the other Treks have had, is that the writers of the show were far more confident in their abilities than those of the later shows. TNG, etc. took two full seasons to get their footing, while TOS managed to do it in a few episodes, and even those were generally stronger than early TNG, etc. I think that's because it was virgin territory and they didn't worry about how it would fit in with other series or piss off long time fans. They could just tell the story they wanted to.

You're supposed to be a smart fellow. Figure it out.

In other words you don't know, you said that because you can't come with anything else to say.

What I can figure out is that you've used the same statement on other occasions and you weren't able to defy what you mean by it then either. This follows suit with "we can agree to disagree".

Well, so much for you being a "smart fellow".

And you proved my point, you throw out meaningless comments without any way to back them up. You really shouldn't try to use phrases that your small mind can't comprehend and your mouth can't explain.

If I tried to put any sort of reasoning or explanation behind your statement of "Fine. If that is all you want to get out of it." it would be an exercise in futility. You would either not respond, or make another statement which tries to avoid answering the question at hand. After some 12-13 years of knowing you online you still can't answer some simple and direct questions.

Dayton wants his traditional Trek back. Star Trek that he can marry and then make dutiful love to.

With more space battles.

No he doesn't. He shits all over Roddenberry, Bob Justman, Gene Coon & Co. Says it's all too liberal and poorly written.

Couple of points here:-

1) Dayton is ONE AGAIN insulting people, this time implying that a member is stupid, despite claiming that he doesn't resort ti insults.

2) He's got no leg to stand on claim that he wants a cerebral Star Trek, when the very cerebral Star Trek that folks such as myself prefer over JJTrek, is the stuff that he equally insults in favour of childish space battles.

More proof of what a total ignoramus the man is.

Dayton wants a trek were all the women are in cdatuits,

The original Star Trek had space battles in its episodes at approximately TWICE the rate The Next Generation did.

If you want I can figure up an analysis of episodes that had some kind of an exchange of fire in them for both of those series.

Ah yes. One of the "insults" I very rarely use. So rare that it obviously stands out.

At any rate, I was figuring it was subtle enough that Ed would not notice anyway.

TOS Production values were horrible.