Honestly, it could be worse than that. Suppose you want to go for a long term troll. You could go the total fail route, like Flashlight, by making things up on the fly. Then everyone realizes pretty easily what's going on because the persona is a completely self-contradictory mess that doesn't hold together. You could do a full Castle, taking your naturally abrasive and dimwitted personality and ramping it up to 110% or more. That works, but it also leaves you open to mockery and can cause problems for you in real life if people figure out who you are. On the other hand, you could choose someone you know who's a bit of a dimwitted asshole and impersonate him while ramping it up to 110% and beyond. You could leave a trail of personal information leading back to the person you're impersonating that seems to confirm your persona as real. We know there really is a Dayton Kitchens out there, but we don't really know that the person claiming on various boards to be him is him. Maybe he isn't. This episode pretty strongly suggests that. A real football coach would never boast about going into the stands to confront hecklers, but a troll impersonating an asshole football coach, one who doesn't really know much about sports, certainly might do it. I'd suggest banning Dayton until he provides a driver's license or a pay stub, or some similar identification that demonstrates that he's not a long term troll out to release personal information about some schmuck who has nothing to do with wordforge.
Is that why you get so defensive when people say you'll never be a head coach, or when you get bent out of shape on the football forum for where you live?
Good. Because confronting fans from the opposing team would be insane. Something like that could easily touch off a brawl involving hundreds of people on both sides. Besides whih who cares about the opposing fans? They are supposed to give you a hard time. And they are about 60 yards away on the opposite side anyway. No, it is your own teams "fans" that I was referring to. People who you expect to support your players and your staff. Not to mention they are right behind you
Maybe that's why you aren't a head coach yet... sounds like you and the rest of them are pretty horrible at it.
I am an assistant coach. I am always loyal to the head coach I serve and the players I'm responsible for. So when necessary I'm willing to confront people on their behalf. Head coaches and players should never have to deal with that kind of stuff.
If what you're talking about is to be expected from the opposing team, then I guess I'm not seeing the problem...other than the fact that your own supporters hate you and your team's guts.
No. But there are lines even a fan at a public event should not cross. Can't define it off hand but you know it when you see it.
It is never a majority opinion. Just some loud mouths from time to time. As I told ed, I can't define it precisely.
But why is it to be endured when the opposing teams fans do it, but it's to be "provoked" (?) when it's coming from the your own team's fans?
For what it's worth, doesn't anyone find it remarkable that an off hand comment by me (in response to an inquiry by Shooter) leads to yet another thread started about me? Not sure why so many of you get all worked up about something that has happened, what? Only three times in ten football seasons.
Anyone who has spent any time in rural areas know that high school football coaches are as much politician as coach. Good ones are a dime a dozen. Doing something that stupid would put your contract at risk. That guy whose face you got in? Yeah. His brother is on the school board and your principal is his 2nd cousin. Bye-Bye, Dayton. Secondly, I have the pleasure of being the acquaintance of more than a few people who have played on National Championship Football teams. Back when Dennis Francioni was, briefly, the coach at Alabama, there was a bit of a scandal. I expressed a little bewilderment at some of it and two of those gentlemen set me straight very quickly. I'll never forget what they said. As a father, you're turning your sons over to these men. You have to be certain of their integrity because they have to continue the work you've started. Doubly so when it comes to boys that don't have a father. If a coach doesn't have the integrity and self-control to control himself in the face of a simple heckler, there's nothing he can teach my son. In fact, I would suggest he could learn something from my son.
In general , the opposing fans do not live close to your head coach and players as the home team fans do. It is the home fans who get out of control that have the potential to subject your people to verbal and potentially physical abuse. Confronting such people is never about wanting to fight them. It is about sending a message. The message being "I know who you are. I know what you've been saying. And if something happens to one of my guys, I will know who to look for". Most hecklers are like most of you discussion board people. They like anonymity. They want to hide in the crowd and NOT be called out personally.
It just adds to the pattern. "Why's everybody so worked about me charging football fans? It's only happened like three times." "Why's everybody so worked up about me smacking my wife around? It only happened that one time, and she's cool with it." "Why's everybody so worked up that I roughed up a lawyer? He was just a lawyer." You have got some serious issues.
Defending my football players and my coach should not cause outrage among people here. And what is wrong with outperforming a lawyer when he had all the advantages?
Which all falls in line with what Liet and I are saying. He slipped. Three times into the bleachers over the last decade? Dayton Kitchens would be a national story with the media we have these days. You had a good run man, But the jig is up.
Nonsense. This is not unknown. IIRC it was just this last football season a noted head coach climbed into the home stands to confront fans who he thought were being too critical of some of his players. They were talking about it last fall on FearlessFriday IIRC.
Defending them from what? If they were actually being assaulted, then sure...but if it was something that you yourself thing is acceptable from the opposing team, not so much. Okay, I'm not clear on the specifics of that one, but the words I keep hearing are "manhandled". I was assuming that meant something physical....unless "The Lawyer" in this case was a stage name for a professional wrestler.
No it means the lawyer was brought in by the school to validate the decision to have your contract not renewed. So you requested a hearing by the school board. At the hearing the lawyer brings in witnesses and a mountain of documentation and tries to get the board to confirm the decision of the principal and superintendent (which is almost always a given). You cross examine the witnesses. Go through the evidence piece by piece and make your case that the superintendent's decision was wrong. The board sides with you and you are given your same job along with your annual raise. By the way this is all public record as the newspaper prints the minutes of all board meetings so I'm not revealing anything that is actually private . But we've been over this before on this board so it should be no surprise.
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You forgot "I choked a shoplifter into unconsciousness, but that was allowed since I was directed to do so". And "I'm only allowed to hit students if they are in full football uniform and then I rightly classify it as a teaching tool." You didn't manhandle him, the school forgot to cross some T's and dot all their I's. You only kept your job through a technicality.
