Celebrating Hiroshima

"Don't push the pink skins to the thin ice."

Maybe that wouldn't have happened if the US had not forced Japan to abandon their isolationist stance at gunpoint.

The thing everyone should remember is that very few enter a war thinking they are the aggressors, and even less start a war thinking they will lose.

Utter, complete, total, 100%, indisputable, BULLSHIT.

Perry forcing Japan to trade with the US in no way created jigoistic tendicies in an otherwise pacifist people. In fact when Japan was 'closed' it was not actually closed. The Dutch and English were still allowed trade (mostly bringing goods in), and through the Ryukyu Kingdom Japan traded with the rest of Asia (mostly exporting). It's just that they didn't allow any unregulated contact as they didn't outside influences to taint their culture (also b/c of the Catholic Japanese led Shimabara Rebellion, thus only allowing protestants in).

What is the Ryukyu Kingdom you ask. Why it was the island kingdom that Bailey's 'isolationist' Japan used a bullshit pretext* to invade and subjugate. While they didn't actually absorb the Ryukyu Kingdom this was only due to the fact that China would not trade with Japan or allow Japan to trade with it's tributary states b/c Japan would not pay tribute to the Chinese Emperor. However Ryukyu DID actually pay tribute (due to it's small size a small tribute) so Japan used it as a gateway to launder their goods.

*What was the bullshit pretext? It was that the Shogun felt that Ryukyu didn't send enough rice to support the armies of Bailey's 'isolationist' Japan's invasion of Chosun (Korea) as a staging area for an invasion of China.

True, the Japanese felt that their racial superiority made the subjugation of the lesser races of Asia their natural birthright and that those trying to stop them were thus acting against nature/history.

Doesn't mean they were right to feel that way, but yeah, they sure did feel that way.

Get rekt, n00b.

It is worth remembering Tsutomu Yamaguchi, who had the misfortune to be in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the days they were nuked. (BTW, he died in 2010 at the age of 94.)

While we're on the subject of bombing Japan, if it wasn't for a conventional bombing raid on Japan after the last nuke was dropped, its possible that the war would have continued.

It's pretty obvious the Japanese were losing. It was a matter of how many men they were willing to sacrefice to save face.

If nothing else the knowledge we gained at Hiroshima and Nagasaki has prevented others of its kind from being used elsewhere.

According to War Department estimates of the time, a frontal assault of the main Island would have incurred one million combined US and Japanese casualties.

Calm yourself and reread what I wrote, I never said that justified their actions, or was a direct cause of it. My point was that at any stage in history there is still potential to look further back and say that something had influence on people's decisions.

For any historical events A and B, A preceding B, it can be said that B was chronologically dependent on A. The present can't be what it is, after all, unless the past is what it was.

However, because historical events are largely shaped by human decision-making, to say B happened BECAUSE of A, you'd have to show that A made B inevitable and that no reasonable decisions made between them could've averted B.

If I hand you a gun and you murder someone with it, it was YOUR choice that brought about that death. (Of course, I could still be culpable if you said "Hand me that gun; I want to murder somebody" beforehand...)

Why in the world would you hand someone a gun unless you wanted him to kill someone? You're not retarded, so I assume some sort of motor coordination deficiency on your part.

A friend of mine handed me a gun on multiple occasions a few years ago, to teach me how to shoot.

There, was it really that hard to figure out that handing someone a gun isn't necessarily an indication that you want him to kill someone?

These words you wrote only make sense if Paladin is handing Bailey a gun because Bailey is a stone-cold assassin and Paladin has just given him his next target.

" It's a good thing you don't live in Canada.." nuff said at that point.

Hell, even the ones who lived through it are dead by now anyway.. so whats the diff?

A Vietnamese man handed me an AK47 after I paid him for 10 bullets. I got to shoot at targets on his outdoor, makeshift range. I had no intention of murdering anyone.

That's why I can't figure out why Russia, North Korea, Pakistan, etc. keep "testing" nuclear weapons.
They fucking work, trust me. YouTube the videos bitches - it's science!

Yeah, but somewhere you have to draw a line. Using the approach you suggest, we can blame the Pacific War on Spain's decision to send the Armada.

"Blame" can be dispriate you know. There's often plenty to go around. You don't need to allocate it all to one party to a conflict.

Obviously you are retarded if you can't figure that out.I have been handed guns multiple times and never shot anyone with it. That was both before and after my time in the military.

They woke a sleeping dragon, and filled him with a terrible resolve.

You express yourself well, for an eleven year-old. What part of that quote bothers you? It's ok, you can use small words and slang.

They reaped the whirlwind.

A buddy of mine was in Thailand and did the same thing. For about $100 (whatever the equivalent was in Thai Bahts) he could have fired an RPG at a cow.

My buddy thought it would be fun, but a waste of a cow. So he passed.

Cows! I hate cows worse than coppers.

See I've heard the cow legend lots before and I've been to tons of places all over SE Asia and was never offered the opportunity, not that I would have taken it. I was given the chance to shoot chickens right enough but what purpose would that serve?? I reckon that the cow bazooka stories are myths that grow arms and legs and if they happen then they must be in a really rural part of Cambodia or Laos.

Just my thoughts.

I've seen the video. He posted it to is his Facebook page. After my friend shoots the AK-47 at a standard target, the army guy puts some kind of rocket launcher (couldn't identify it) on the table and you can clearly see a cow in the distance. The army guy says a bunch of stuff in Thai that I don't understand, but my friend laughs it off and says thanks anyway.

I'm filled with sexual joy at the suffering you posted. In fact I wish more tales of misery was posted for my perverse pleasure.

Oh, you liked it. And rekt must be a new form of nirvana. never mind.

You asked.

As even non radiated Japanese can easily live through their ninth and tenth decades of life, there are probably a few of 'em still kicking around. Even the Yamaguchi guy that got blasted twice didn't start having problems till his eighties.

I don't know how many are alive that were old enough to remember, through. The youngest survivors are in their early seventies.