Yeah, I'm not sure how to read that either. It seems to me that you must have chosen your partners; I don't think you were trying to say that you had sex with anyone who happened to come along, solely on their initiative. So short of prostitution, whatever qualities made them attractive to you as a partner would be their attractiveness, right?
See, I glided right past that. Took it to mean "attractive" as in "conforming to the standards for beauty as defined by my culture." Because we're all programmed for that to some extent (though the fascinating part is how "beauty" differs from culture to culture). The question becomes whether we're merely products of our programming or whether we can select based on individual standards. If the former were the case, we as a species would have died off a long time ago.
Yes, partners are chosen on attractiveness. However, if attractiveness is the ONLY reason you sleep with that person, if you have no feelings for that person, you aren't going to get much enjoyment out of it. The factor of which I was speaking, was the enjoyment of the act. If you like someone and they 'happen' to be very good looking and if those feelings are returned, then both of you are more likely to enjoy and ... participate in the act. If you don't like someone and they 'happpen' to be not so very good looking and if those feelings are, again, similar to yours, then both of you are less likely to enjoy or participate in the act. If you like someone and they 'happen' to be not so very good looking and if those feelings are returned, then both of you are more likely to enjoy and ... participate in the act. If you don't like someone and they 'happpen' to be very good looking and if those feelings are, again, similar to yours, then both of you are less likely to enjoy or participate in the act. So, you see, The Factor, the determining "thing" that makes the experience enjoyable and participatory, is not attractiveness, but feelings.
I think the problem is that Jenee appears to be defining "attractiveness" solely on physical appearance, whereas most normal people would define it far more broadly.
Did you read this from the beginning? I was questioning Anna's statement in which SHE was not only defining "attractiveness" sole on physical appearance, but also that physical appearance had something to do with ANYONE who is physically attractive "suck in bed".
This gets a lot simpler when you take into account that people get more attractive when you have feelings for them.
Because Faceman is an asshole. He was born an asshole, he'll die an asshole, and he'll try to be an asshole to everyone on this planet before that happens. He's also a truly disgusting pig, who loves to bully others, and post demeaning, filthy images that shock and dismay. You cannot reason with him, because all he ever intends to do is to be an asshole. Even if he's nice for a moment, just remember that he's preparing to be an asshole, and you're only letting your guard down for no good reason.
He seems to know an awful lot about the balloons and ice cream method. What sort of van do you suppose he drives?
That's not in dispute. I only questioned Anna's statement that "hot girls suck in bed". I would .. hope, that every guy on here believes his wife is "hot" and that she probably does not suck in bed.
I find your "jests" to be nothing more than hateful, spite filled, passive aggressive jabs at others.
I don't understand. Are you saying you're not a member of NAMBLA? Because that's news. You should pin that thread.
Carlin's dead, Pryor's dead, Hicks is dead, Robin Williams is dead, Kardashians keep thieving oxygen.
No, Faceman, I'm not. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, members of NAMBLA can go fuck themselves, and leave the children alone. Now kindly go fuck yourself.
On your last sentence, I hope the same, and suspect most of us would indeed say as much regarding our own partner. But Anna was talking about the more stereotypical hot, the super model hot, if you will. And her point is that sleeping with such a person, only knowing about their looks will likely lead to disappointment. This is partly from what you have argued -- people need a stronger connection than that for the sex to be truly passionate. But part of it is also that this "objectively hot person" has never had trouble finding a sexual partner, and therefore may not have ever learned how to make the sex good. If you can get somebody on looks alone, you don't need a personality or sense of humor or an ability to deep throat. Hence, you don't need to be good in bed.
I also don't see what's funny about randomly accusing somebody of being a pedo. I don't think you're being touchy. The guy is just an arse.
