Jury Nullification

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  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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  2. Chardman

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    Which is exactly as it should be.
  3. boya qish

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    judge has made a decision and this can not be changed. We all have our Mnemonic and always have been but the decision of the court judge accept
  4. Jenee

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    Despite my disagreement with the Zimmerman jury, I do not believe the ruling should be overturned due to popular/public opinion.
  5. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    That's not what is meant by jury nullification.
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  6. Jenee

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    Never heard the term. I only read this thread and someone upthread said something like that.

    Don't make me go to google.
  7. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    It takes less time to google it than to make that post. However, I will help you out. The term means that the jury ignores the legal code and produces a verdict based on something else. They nullify the law, so to speak. When a judge turns over the jury's decision, that's called a directed verdict IIRC.
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    There is also the judge dismissing the case AFTER the prosecution has rested its case but WITHOUT the defense presenting its case.

    There is often a motion by the defense for dismissal saying the prosecution has failed to present a viable case for guilt and not met the burden of proof to the court and thus it should be dismissed by the judge. These are rarely granted but they seem to come up when a prosecution witness is completely discredited by cross examination or a key piece of physical evidence comes into serious question.
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    Thanks. I just didn't want to have to bother with it at the time.

    However, I did so later and ... I'm not sure if your statement is entirely accurate. But, what i found was that the jury doesn't produce a verdict based on something else so much as they accept that the defendant IS guilty as charged by law, but feel the law is incorrect and give a not guilty verdict. After reading up on it, I do recall this from Government class back in high school.
  12. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No child left behind.
  13. Jenee

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    Not sure what you're implying, child, but I was in high school - most likely - before you were born.
  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Then you should have been familiar with the term. No excuses for you. It's only one of the most fundamental concepts of our system. What's next, you don't know what the Bill of Rights is? If these things aren't being taught in schools, then we seriously need to scrap the public school system.
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  15. Jenee

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    Dude ... go back to bed.
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  16. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    So Federal Farmer thinks an education law passed during the 2nd Bush administration is as fundamental as the Bill of Rights?

    :facepalm:

    That explains so very much about him.
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    Blame the police who did a sloppy job at the crime scene and with the evidence. It was more than enough to raise reasonable doubt. Don't blame the jury.
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  18. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No, I don't. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said that jury nullification is a fundamental principle if the founding of this country. If you would read what I said, you wouldn't have made the comment you did. I mentioned no child left behind because I was making fun of Jenee for not knowing what jury nullification is. Read before you post. It might help.
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  19. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Might help you out to be more clear. It was a reasonable inference given where you had moved the conversation.
  20. Grout

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    I don't buy it. The glove don't fit tap dance was just plain silly. It was a fearful jury
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    Maybe the jury was fearful since the LA riots were still a failrly recent memory. That said, the state still has to prove their case, and failed to do so. We the people cannot demand justice (or at least our definition of it).
    Are you listening, Ferguson?
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  23. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh, sure, play the "fact card" again!
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  24. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    The OJ Simpson case was a straight-forward murder case. When the prosecution spent 99 days and 72 witnesses presenting its case the jury concluded, quite properly, that the prosecution didn't believe in its own case. That trial was lost as soon as the prosecution decided it needed more than three days and five witnesses to get a conviction.

    If the prosecution can't decide which evidence is important and relevant then the jury can only do its job by returning a not guilty verdict.
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  25. Grout

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    alright... but I still want to say "But...."
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