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Discussion in 'Media Central' started by The Original Faceman, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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  2. ed629

    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    That looked awesome.
  3. The Original Faceman

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    NO IT DIDN'T!
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  4. K.

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    It did look surprisingly good, considering they're amateurs, but the plot and dialogue were awful.

    Oh, and that goes for this fan remake as well.
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    Kinda sucks. As much work as they no doubt put into it, like every other fan film, it still looks like crap, especially the interiors which were obviously blue-screened. Oh, and the acting was horrible. :/
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Really bad acting, the effects can't make up for that.
  7. Donovan

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    Wasn't any worse than some of the acting and writing that killed the actual show...
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  8. We Are Borg

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    Here's the thing with fan films: despite the fact that many of them now have Hollywood-level professional production values, they can't seem to get actors worth a shit.

    (Star Trek: Prelude to Axanar doesn't count, because the fans used professional actors.)
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  9. Captain X

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    That's because the fans making it are often also acting in it.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The worst actor on ENT by a large margin was Anthony Montgomery. He was so bland that the actor had a reoccurring role on a show I watched weekly a year before Enterprise air and I didn't make the connection until two years after the latter was canceled. I guess being the grandson of jazz musician Wes Montgomery opened doors to him :blink:
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    Not bad on mute. Staggeringly awful if you can actually hear the dialogue/"acting."
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    Seems like they wanted to do "Prelude to Axanar" without the pro actors.

    Wonder why the series couldn't ever do this though?
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Because, UPN. :borg:

    Berman and Braga deserve the derision they get, but TNG and especially DS9 benefitted greatly for being a syndicated show and having the buck stop with their exec producers. By the time Enterprise rolled around, the network was catering greatly towards the urban market and teen girls....hense, we get bullshit like Trip and T'Pol's various gratuitous shower scenes. :bergman:
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  14. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Those naked T'Pol scenes were one of the only reasons to watch that show.
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  15. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It's a shame it would take Rod Roddenberry billions to rip Trek from CBS/Paramount's clutches, otherwise, he could take it right to Netflix.
    It's hard to envision a future Trek series scenario that doesn't get sabotaged by boardroom fuckery.
  16. The Original Faceman

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    Why would Rod be any better?
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    He'd likely step out of the way, and let (insert your favorite showrunner) do it their way.
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  18. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Maybe Rod would think he is the only person to known Gene well enough to maintain the original vision. However, he is also far more likely to hand it to Netflix, since the chance of Paramount doing so is less than zero.
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    I get so tired of hearing about Gene Rodenberrys vision. In his last years his vision was chasing tail and drinking
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I thought in his last few years he was embarrassed by the stuff he wrote in TOS, then nearly drove TNG into the grave with the boring ass utopian shit that passed for its first two seasons. :blink:
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  21. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Rod did a documentary about his dad, and he knows his flaws, and how "Gene's vision", handcuffed the TNG/Voyager writers.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    As for the topic....no, Enterprise as a concept didn't have to blow dead bears, to steal from Tuckerfan's thread title. Everything has been said on the topic of how to improve it, but it's a shame the show couldn't have been produced on HBO or Hulu/Netflix.
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    Support wasn't there for it on the studio level, unfortunately. It honestly seemed like the people in charge wanted to ensure the show died.
  24. Diacanu

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    Sometimes, you get a dickhead studio head that has it out for a particular show.
    It's how the classic Dr. Who got killed off.
  25. The Prussian Mafia

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    Despite the acting, that trailer had more energy and adventure in it than all the episodes of Voyager and Enterprise combined!
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  26. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I don't think so. Roddenberry.com (Rod) and The Nerdist produce a podcast called The Mission Log that's about Roddenberry Trek. He's involved, but they call it like it is, warts and all. It's really good stuff.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The show had four seasons, which is three more than any show without "Star Trek" in its title would have received. Les Moonves is an idiot, but any other exec would have had a problem justifying the show's continued existence.

    ETA: to @Captain X a few posts up
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    Feces on cable is still feces
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    Any project with Berman and Braga was gonna suck, but on cable at least, there would've been fewer episodes (thus, more focus on decent episodes and not slapping crap together to fill out a 26 epi contract) and less network interference. As I said before, Enterprise was the odd man out on UPN, and for all practical purposes, UPN was not the same network that premiered six years before. Trying to tailor Enterprise to be hip and cool was a fool's errand. So way continuing to force the tired ass TNG formula that was old and tiresome on by 1992. IIt's only been fairly recently that folks have began to acknowledge that the blame isn't entirely on Bermaga.
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  30. Captain X

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    To be fair, the cluster fuck that was the Temporal Cold War was forced on Beebs, which is probably why they barely did anything with it. It wouldn't surprise me if there was some kind of quota they had to fill for each season, which is why they went back to it during the Xindi story arc.
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