Sure, a guy is dead, but the REAL tragedy is taxes

I was just adding commentary.
It's pathetic that "common sense", has really come to this, is all.
That you just have to assume the cop is a kill-crazy maniac.

No, you just have to understand the process.

Strange, but no, that's not what common sense means. It means you cooperate with the system in place unless there is a serious defect that can only be remedied by direct confrontation. Any other sort of defect can be remedied through more peaceful steps.

Gawrsh!

I'd much rather deal with the police than with superheroes. Batman usually assumes that any big guys that are standing around must be one of the villain's toadies, and he beats the snot out of all of them. Has anyone crunched the numbers on what percentage of the people he beats up are innocent bystanders or people who were trying to intervene to prevent someone else from getting pummeled?

Not surprisingly, that's all you've got. Perhaps you can cite an incident - other than some white guy in a Lexus slipping a state trooper a Benjamin to make a traffic stop go away - where arguing with the arresting officer has ever resulted in "Oh, sorry, yeah, you're right. I'll take the cuffs off now. Have a nice day!"

Always assumed Batman ran background on everyone, and cased a hideout before doing a raid.
That's what that bigass Bat-computer was for.

Course, collateral damage would be a good storyline.

The problem is that filing complains and suing and the like often don't work - cops can and do get away with violating civil rights.

You've gone full Federal Farmer. Never go full Federal Farmer...

He's the new John of Vision Castle.

How so?

Yes, they do, and that's a function of the underlying culture of the particular PD in question, something that AFAIK hasn't really been addressed here.

But I'll put the same question to you that I put to Diacanu (with the possibly spurious hope of getting a serious answer): Perhaps you can cite an incident - other than some white guy in a Lexus slipping a state trooper a Benjamin to make a traffic stop go away - where arguing with the arresting officer has ever resulted in "Oh, sorry, yeah, you're right. I'll take the cuffs off now. Have a nice day!"

You missed his Batman vs Superman analogy in that other thread? Gotham was styled after NYC, but only one of them is real.

Apparently so.
Link?

I ran into a Ninja house cat when I was out deer bowhunting earlier this year! I got it to come lay down relatively close to me for about 20 minutes then it left to go back to hunting squirrels or whatever Ninja cats do. I was hoping it would bring me luck. It did take a big dump right in a muddy area of a well used deer trail, for what it's worth. The "circle of life" I guess!

Disagree to a point. In the original Batman TV series all the villian's minions had "stooge" or "henchman" on their outfits. Sometimes they were just dressed in the theme of the villian, like Cat Woman's minions were dressed in cat ear hats. Then again, in the heat of a fight
the caped crusaders might let an errant punch or two slip. Nobody ever really got hurt anyway!

Of course there is the other side of the coin where you're running your mouth about rights violations when the cop isn't violating your rights. Most people really have no clue about their rights.

And it appears to me you don't know the difference between standing up for your rights and just being an argumentative ass.

I'm not saying you shouldn't assert your rights. You should always do that. What I am saying that is arguing needlessly over every little thing during an encounter with a cop is stupid and could possibly result in a situation where you're not arrested for what you were stopped for but are arrested for resisting arrest.

Oh, you think that "Biff!" "Pow!" "Bam!" doesn't hurt?! If any of those toadies had a good defense attorney, the Wayne fortune would be a whole lot smaller now.

Aunt Harriet would be the first to go! She's "tits on a pipe wrench" useless. Still I bet her and Alfred were having a torrid love affair!

I haven't seen stats on that, do you have them? You might be right, and if so, that should be the topic of conversation. What I'm seeing is a lot of people saying that all police are corrupt and that we should therefore resist all police. I don't think either point has been demonstrated satisfactorily.

Oooh, they are sly demons, those Ninja Cats.. Looking over should nervously. Shhhhhhhhh [emoji87] [emoji86] [emoji85]

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Hell of an assumption on your part. I'm responding to the assertion that filing complaints or suing is actually going to accomplish anything, not advocating for people to argue every little point with an officer.

Which again, is stupid and shouldn't be legal. If you can't be legally arrested to begin with, why should you be able to be arrested for resisting arrest? Especially in light of the fact so many cops just go ahead and use the "contempt of cop" catch-all that is "disorderly conduct" anyway.

Take a look through this website and you'll see some examples. The owner of the site was himself the victim of police abuse, and the best he could do was to get declared not guilty of the charges police tried to lay on him.

I didn't say that.

http://wordforge.net/index.php?thre...air-strikes-in-syria-iraq-as-piddling.105298/

So, now, Gotham/NYC...only one is real, right?

You really need me to explain that I was discussing fiction for an instant?

A lot of the problems will go away once we switch to android police who have the entire corpus of US law in their microchip brains. Then justice will be enforced precisely, fairly, and evenly.

Wish granted

No, I'm saying it doesn't advance your argument any more than it does his. "Fight the Pigs" is so 1970.