Nothing but another bullshit storm from the professionally outraged. The video you linked to cuts off the key comments that illustrate why this wasn't an attempt to be racist. Quite the contrary, it was a criticism of brushing away bigotry and suffering. Now, if only George could stop dragging up the Shatner fued for publicity I could go back to respecting him......
A bunch of bigots accusing George of momentarily muscling in on their territory? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
George didn't have the slightest inkling of what Justice Thomas meant. Slavery didn't strip the slaves of dignity or humanity. They had it in spades. The people without dignity and humanity were the slave owners.
I can't dispute your last sentence when I give it some thought (as always, there are exceptions), but it's hard to imagine slavery not stripping always the slaves' dignity and humanity, both the African and Irish slaves.
Wow. Just fucking wow. The slaves may not have lost their humanity in themselves, but they sure as hell lost their dignity and humanity through being degraded as property. What is your agenda here GCunt?
So were allied POW's stripped of their humanity and dignity? No, they were starved, beaten, and tortured, but we honor them for their sacrifice, their character, their strength of will, and their dignity. Their guards - not so much.
Okay, let's beat the shit out of gturner, and auction off his family to perverts, and see how well he keeps his chin up.
Takei was absolutely right to call out that hypocrisy. 76 percent of Americans of all races were against interracial marriage when it was finally legalized in the 60s. By sheer coincidence, a good number of gay couples I've come across are interracial.
But that's the thing. They had dignity in the face of adversity and abuse. Look at it from Thomas's perspective. Are you saying that his ancestors had no dignity? That they were undignified? He disagrees, strongly. Or maybe you just think black people lack dignity. You might blame slavery to justify such a racist perspective, but did black allied POWs lack dignity - or humanity? If slaves lacked humanity why did Roots do so well? Perhaps you should call LeVar Burton and bitch at him for playing a person who lacked humanity. He'll probably reply that he played LaForge, not Data. So Thomas is arguing that dignity and humanity are not in the government's power to give or take away, just as Lincoln said that the government couldn't add or detract to the consecration of the ground at Gettysburg. Further, blacks retained their dignity and humanity throughout the Jim Crow era. Are you arguing that Martin Luther King had no dignity because he wasn't treated equally? Are you arguing that he'd been stripped of his humanity by Bull Connor? I would argue that Bull Connor, who used fire hoses and attack dogs on black children, was the one with no dignity or humanity. Or perhaps you think imprisoning Nelson Mandela stripped him of dignity and humanity. I think he would have replied by quoting Invictus: Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears Looms but the Horror of the shade, And yet the menace of the years Finds, and shall find me, unafraid. It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. Meanwhile, at least George Takei only called Thomas a clown in black face instead of going for the full on tar baby - black Sambo - swamp runnin' n**** route.
https://peoplestrusttoronto.wordpress.com/2014/12/27/irish-the-forgotten-white-slaves/ I wonder if they kept their dignity and humanity. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the Irish still took the piss.
Oh do fuck off. Indentured servitude was not slavery, and what's more you degrade the dignity of the slaves with such comparisons.
Ok, so I am now supposed to hate george takai because some nutty twitchy racist professional victim got outraged? Oh yeah that is happening right after I vote for donald trump for president. You really think this artricle and those expressions are going to stain his reputation? @gturner you give stupid more depth every day.
I'm not the one calling a black judge on the Supreme Court "a clown in blackface", though I suppose Bull Connor and George Wallace said that about Thurgood Marshall.
I have to say thank you to @gturner. You see I just got back from getting my thumb stitched up because I was stupidly using a machete in a completely wrong manner while not wearing gloves. Multiple times before I took a whack at my thumb I thought those clippers on the ground would be much easier, oh and if I wore some gloves I would not have all this sap all over my hands. But no, I did not do any of that shit and gave my thumb a good whack right on the knuckle. Good thing it was the off hand. I was feeling mightry stupid about all of that, and wondering why I was such a dumbass and just getting down on myself, and then I read @gturner 's OP. I am still stupid for what I did, but I was glad to see there is a long way to go before I am Gturner fucking stupid. Thanks buddy, without you we might not know how low the bar could actually go.
L If you are using a machete in the manner intended, gloves won't even be a factor. Whatever digit you accidentally hit is either coming off or crushed or ripped the fuck open whether you are wearing gloves or not. Yes I have a shit-ton of stitches and missing body parts I have collected over the years. The most idiotic? Having a folding pocket knife folding up with my finger still in it! And I bled and bled all over the newly painted floor of the hangar! Talk about feeling foolish.
This has got to be the most astonishingly stupid comment I've ever read. I know some here mock what I do for a living, but I have acted for people who have come from warzones. People who have been tortured, raped and generally denied all kinds of basic human rights. How dare you look at slaves, and anyone else who, habe gone through inhuman suffered, with such a flippant attitude. What good is it to be treated with dignity after the pain, and worse still, after death? Here's a message from me..... gturner......go fuck yourself
You're such a frustrating poster. You make a good point and this undermine it with the fantasy world badass crap. Shame.
I am not sure why you think me whacking my thumb with a machete and having to get stitches is bad ass. I could really have done without it. I pretty much regard it as stupid, as I seem to have stated. Please do not think I would encourage someone to do the dumbass thing I did because it does cause injury. If I was trying to be bad ass I would have told you that the local did not work in that area and I pretty much had to sit through the stitches which wasn't so bad. You see, that would be macho bragging and I really did not think anyone wanted to hear about that, but you are so thin skinned you didn't even notice where I was saying it was a really stupid fucking move. Please Gturner already made me feel better by showing me there are depths of stupidity I have not even imagined yet, you don't need to remind me of that also. I am going to go see if any of my old victims have formed a support group that you can get into. Oh, and if I am going to be accused of doing it, I should at least get to do it.
So you think slaves and POW's are undignified and inhuman? I guess you'd make a good slave owner or prison camp guard. Justice Thomas said they are not, and was called a "clown in blackface" for not agreeing that slaves were subhuman vermin, lacking both dignity and humanity.
Holy Crap! I realise gturner is a total dick, and everything he says is loaded, but how can anyone disagree with that?
Justice Thomas was right when he said that government recognition doesn't confer dignity upon anything. But he is wrong to use that as a reason to deny government recognition. As for the blackface comments, Takei probably didn't need to say that. At least he didn't, as some have, call him 'Uncle' Thomas.
Save for my initial reply to you, which has obliviously gotten to you, what else have I said in this thread that you regard as stupid that warrants my induction into the special club? Or are you calling gturdburgler a cunt, but still agreeing with him because you dislike me?
Yeah, but here's the thing, he/she/it may be bizarre, but you're just a cunt. At least with you we don't have to worry about not being sure......