Scientists: Cavemen Loved Their Carbs, So Your Paleo Diet is Bullshit

Basically, ever since, if not before, we learned to use fire, we were stuffing our pieholes with carb heavy foods.

Suck it, douchebags.

 

...in a study founded by the bread industry...

 

I guess they must have been funding lots of studies, as this is the latest of a number of studies to show that our ancestors liked their carbs. And their altered plants.

 

The Paleo diet is bullshit though.

I just like to point out you're fucked from both sides.
The corporations are evil, the hippies are dipshits with hollow solutions, and everything is poison.

 

Anyone who ever thought that it was a good idea to base a diet off rampant speculation about the diet eaten 20,000 years ago by very different people under vastly different environmental and social conditions was always an obvious idiot, regardless of the carbohydrate content they attribute to the diet of those people from long ago.

 

Well, that stems from the omnivore problem. Just what is our natural diet supposed to be? That question is easy to answer for sheep or tigers, but for us it's complicated.

 

Speaking of which...

 

Pretty much every "diet" is complete and total bullshit.

 

Very true. They ate whatever they could without getting killed in the process. Some tribes ate few carbs, others ate more. And even that would fluctuate greatly over time as food source availabilty changed. That said I love the shit out of meat/fish, fat and protein. But that's what works for me - I'm losing weight and getting much stronger eating like a predator versus a prey animal (veggie centered). Is it psychological or factual with me? Who knows, if it ain;t broke don't fix it! Plus meat just tastes awesome. Bloody rare grilled steak is about as good as it gets IMO.

 

Pretty much. Keep calories low, and keep activity high. That's really all there is to it.

 

Who writes this stuff?

Homo Sapiens didn't migrate out of Africa until about 120,000 years ago. It was other species, now extinct, that migrated out earlier than that.

I guess "our ancestors" doesn't include Africans - who still live in Africa, having never left the place, at least the last time anyone checked. The writer is either very sloppy or very unconsciously racist. Maybe all his ancestors left Africa 120,000 years ago (not 1.8 million years ago) but I'm pretty sure our nation is chock full of people whose ancestors don't fit his narrative.

 

Have you ever worked in the "wild"? I have, pray tell, where did our ancestors find abundant "starches"?

I guarantee you I'll find 1,000 lbs of meat before you find even 1 pound of grain.

But no no, go on believing stupid studies bought and paid for by biased-parties...don't worry about COMMON SENSE.

But if you want to put your "dumb beliefs" to the test...try walking into a national park and living off whatever nuts and berries you can find. Maybe you'll come across a patch of wheat or I dunno...some potatoes? HAHAH

 

Who is this dingbat?

 

Not a dingbat, it's a common sense question.

How many pounds of tomatoes can you find in the day it would take you to hunt a 100 lbs deer? It's not like the world is packed full of vegetables edible to humans (or grains for that matter).

Have you ever been hiking along a trail and suddenly stumbled upon a giant field of ANY FOOD you eat?

I remember this one fire I was on (Firefighter) and I smelled in the black some onions and I'm like "hold up guys" and I pulled up this onion I found, this itty bitty little ... 1/4oz onion.

There's your "carb diet" for the day before farming.

 

Oh...most animals that eat carbs/starches as their only diet, have HUGE intestinal tracks and HUGE caecums designed to digest plant matter, and they live off grass and leaves and bark.

Not cucumbers and peppers and tomatoes or potatoes.

 

It's not your content, it's your tone. You'll fit in somewhere around here.

 

I kinda liked poking around here it seems to let me allow to be a LITTLE brusque. Oh well.

 

Nuts, berries, acorns, etc. do provide many calories HOWEVER they are seasonal - you can't depend on them for shit. So our ancestors probably gorged on them until they were gone, then went back to killing critters. They were no doubt opportunistic or died. Some studies say they scavenged a lot from dead fish and critters. Much easier to capture a dead critter than a live one! Follow a flock of crows eating dead animals then chase them off to eat what's left? That's a strategy. But yes cooking with fire was a huge game-changer. Without it proto-humans couldn't have had the calories to grow the brains to even harness fire to keep warm in cold climates. Evolution would have stopped with proto-humans living in warm climates competing with other primate species - we might never be here to discuss it!

 

I have to follow a diet program where I can eat carbs, but I have to keep them low so I don't fuck up my blood sugar (no more than 45/3 carbs for a meal, and 15/1 carbs per snack). I eat reduced fat, too. My brain is sad. On the upside, my liver is glad. It's a difficult balance. That said, diets, in general, really are bullshit.

 

Diabetes?

 

Yep. I got it at 28.

 

Ugh. Sorry to hear that.

 

Thanks, and I was too. I have always tried to take care of myself. I had high blood pressure at 21, diabetes at 28. I also have high triglycerides, and high cholesterol. According to my doctor, it's genetic, because the numbers are just absurdly high. In his own words, "you have numbers that are so high, you couldn't get them if you ate a box of cheeseburgers every day."

So we're combating it as best as we can.

 

You can keep it under control - but you have to give it 100 percent! My wife has it, and being proactive is very important.

 

Are you "under control", in the common vernacular? (A1C under 7...)

 

I won't know about the A1C for another two months, but as of last testing (a month ago) it was at 9.1. Using the Victoza, my blood glucose hovers between 85-100 most of the time, so we do have that under control. Everything else, I'll find out about in late September when I see my doctor again.

 

Gotcha. Do you closely watch your diet? Or do you eat kinda what you want? I am just curious. I am pre-diabetic and I am working to reverse that.

 

I watch my diet closely. I consume a certain amount of carbs, fat, sugars, and so on. I watch when I eat, and how much. For breakfast, I may consume 25-30 carbs. Lunch is 15 carbs. Dinner is 35-45 carbs. A snack later on is 15 carbs. I drink lots of water, and eat as much high fiber, low fat food as I can.

 

Paleo itself is probably taking it too far, but a reduced carb diet has some merits. I can't drop weight on a regular reduced portion size diet, but dropping high-carb components like bread, pasta or rice for more veg or meat definitely allows me to reduce whilst not feeling hungry. I still take carbs, but more beans and other pulses (lentils instead of rice, etc). Add nuts for energy as oil. Lost twenty stone in three months last time, with gym two to three hours a week. Increased protein ratio also helps stop fluid retention.

It's tough to maintain though - one trip away and you quickly find restaurants and shop-bought meals don't cater to it. Unless you prepare your own foods, its damn easy to fall back off the wagon.