Who's To Blame For Our New Novelty President?

You said "long before".

Given that currencies and trade in food stuffs goes back to Mesopotamia, and in the context you provided, it'd be archaeology.

That said, not knowing what you're talking about isn't a new thing to see.

Never said I did vote for the Prime Minister. At least not directly... I mean, we all know who each party's leader is and they become the poster child of those platforms... otherwise, they're still MPs to their home ridings.

Correction though... average riding size is closer to about 75 000 voters vs actual population.

Is Tim Horton's a restaurant chain, or a store chain, or what? Is their coffee really good?

Canada's main donut chain.

The coffee is good, ol' fashioned coffee flavoured coffee. Most Americans I've met here really like it, so I guess it's got something going for it that they don't get from Krispy Kreme.

A Canadian photojournalist got me hooked on the stuff when he gave me a small can as a "thank you" for mentoring him.

It's really tasty "simple" coffee.

I said "divolops and CAPITALIZES agriculture long before"

**Emphasis in original**

The word "and" is a conjunction, joining two or more nouns, verbs or adjictives.

I even capitolized the word "CAPITALIZES" thinking the irony would further emphasis the statment.

Many cultures diveloped trade and agriculture independently. Western European cultures were the first to capitolize on it due to verious geographical advantages.

Some of those advantages include:
- More land hospitable to key cattle stock such as cows, pigs, and sheep than other cultures had.
-Fewer natural predators for the same.
-Laditude generous in favorabe crop weather.
-Bodies of water, such as the dead sea, enabling ships to boost trade.
-Natural barriers such as the sea and Caucasian mountans reducing invasion from other nations.

And then there's the Protastent Work Ethic.

speaking of "simple coffee" the other day I was in the hospital with time to kill waiting for my prescription and went into the Starbucks they have. There are a gazillion types of coffee most with high calorie flavorings and colorings and whatnot. So I just had to say "all I want is a simple old fashioned coffee, whatever that's called here."

If you really wanted to stretch you could create an alternate timeline where GW didn't become pres but Jeb still ran.

There is going to be a whole lot of analysis for years to come, but in retrospect the moment Jeb started getting pounded was the moment the Democrats should have paused for thought and seen the shift against establishmemt candidates coming their way.

That was a relatively small factor as it was dropped a day and a half later. Hillary's major problem was with whites plus she couldn't even turn out minorities as well as Obama. Hell, she just barely won women despite all her accusations that any woman who did not vote for her was a traitor.

Besides her trend was down for weeks before that shoe dropped.

So we are like the British Empire? Wr own the world but hire Indians to run it?

Your description does not match the trend in the polls. And although she was vindicated two days before the election, that in itself may have energized her opponents who perceived that she escaped punishment, yet again.

Granted, it should have never been so close in the first place.

Read 538. She was falling in the polls for weeks before that event.

And he immediately fills his staff with Washington insiders (Bannon notwithstanding)

That sentiment is out there, but not enough to lose elections I don't think. The problem with being against "PC" is that there's no real distinction between disapproving of "participation trophies" and "trigger warnings" and disapproving of actual, genuine, needed reform in a culture that for too long assumed anyone not a white male was a lesser being. SOME "PC is very much bullshit, some of it is just trying to be a decent human being.

The myth of unfettered immigration. How many of those folks know that there are fewer illegals in the U.S. now than when Obama took office?

Thing is, the "melting pot" hasn't been that in any real since since the Civil War at least. Assimilation meant that, unless we decide we want to adopt some of your recopies or some shit, otherwise you folks conform to the dominant white culture. I agree those folks were reacting to the fact that this is no longer expected, but that doesn't make them right to do so. It's not about being better, as a nation - immigrants come here precisely because they want to be in the better nation - for the Trump voter, it's about the 1940s dominant white "Christian" culture being better than any other. But correlation ain't necessarily causation.

In the sectors of the economy that affected them. See my link below about which I started a new thread. The economy changed to a more global and more automated one and that depressed the small-town economy which could not make up the difference in service sector jobs the way the cities did. Just not enough people to support it. I completely get people being really worried about that. In the town where I live we're one furniture factory and a couple of clay plants away from probably 60% unemployment. But this situation is not the result of Washington elites and party politics and Donald Trump, if he got every single thing he wanted, wouldn't put a visible scuff on that problem. You're right about why they reacted, but they aren't right about the solution.

See that's the thing, the population divides up pretty neatly into:
Rich enough to afford insurance
Insured through their employer so the ACA isn't relevant
On government provided insurance one way or another (Gov employee, Vet, Medicare)
Poor enough to get subsidies or medicaid
Donut hole people who would be covered if they didn't live in asshole states like MS that refused to expand medicaid
and
a relatively small group not insured through employers, not rich enough to not care or poor enough to get help, who are being monumentally fucked.

That last group has a huge reason to resent Obama, but they are not really that many as a percentage of the electorate - anyone else who voted because they were pissed about Obamacare is just being a sucker for stories told about it by others, not voting on their own experience. Like some of these other issues, the mythology is more powerful as a political tool than the reality of it should justify.

Certainly can't dispute that.


Here's the article I mentioned
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

then you aren't paying attention. Acquaint yourself with the top dog in the Philippians for example, Brexit is an example, White Nationalist parties are on the ascendancy in Europe from Greece to France to Sweeten for fucking cryin-out-loud.

Wisconsin and Michigan were close, PA not so much.

that was actually what I was thinking when I read this line:

"Clinton has literaly comitted treason"

I figure it's a pendulum swing - if the current administration goes TOO far into its ideology, then the people vote in the opposite ideology. If that side goes too far, the next election will see a swing the other way.

Ever been to a motel or convenience store in north Georgia? That ship has sailed.

Somebody on the news just had a GREAT point - Michael Moore I think touched on it - the people that voted for evil, racist, sexist Trump in Michigan (and other swing/battleground states too) WERE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008-2012.
So were these the 1/2 of America that "dropped the ball" for the left? I'm glad I have the day off - I can't wait to see how the wordforge lefties spin this!

There's almost certainly an aspect of that, but in that situation it's interesting to note that the pendulum is lopsided. If you consider the Trump win a swing to the other side then the entire pendulum is being pulled towards the left considering the difference in victory margin Trump got compared to Obama.